Re: common costs | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: David L. Mandel (75407.2361![]() |
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:45:31 -0600 |
Heather Sullivan-Catlin asked: > -What ARE common costs? > -How did your group divide them? > -What was your rationale behind the decision? > We are also interested in how the monthly or yearly fees are handled in those > communities that are up and running. You'll find lots on these questions in the archives, if you can find the archives. I still haven't gotten past e-mail. But to answer briefly: Common costs start with very little -- mailings and meeting expenses for your initial organizing. Later they get very big: the likely hundreds of thousands of dollars your group will have to come up with collectively as leverage for land purchase and construction loans. Other medium "pre-development" costs come in between. For the initial first costs we assessed a non-refundable flat fee ($25 a year, I think) to anyone who wanted to participate regularly in organizing meetings. Then as our core group developed, we still charged that to people who were considering joining, only the $25 went to a separate cohousing umbrella organization that may yet spawn other groups in addition to ours. For any costs that went toward our specific project once we had our core group and especially once we picked a site, full core group members invested what they could and whatever amounts they put in were credited to their accounts with the promise that if it ever really happened, that amount would go toward their down payment when it came time to actually purchase. At one point after we had secured our site, we formed a formal limited partnership into which previously invested sums were rolled over. We also set target investment amounts of 10 percent of anticipated unit cost, 5 percent for low-income members. But in reality, some invested next to nothing -- because that's all they had -- and others put in far more than the target amounts. Once the partnership was formed, we also invited some outsiders to be partners. These were mostly relatives and friends. We promised a good rate of return on investments (different rates for different categories) and set priorities for repayment in case of fiasco, knowing that it was highly risky early on but that the project wouldn't happen unless we collectively invested around $450,000, about 14 percent of our total development cost. Others who don't get the extra help we had from our local housing agency would probably have to come up with more. The rationale, if not clear already, was that we had to come up with that money and wanted to regularize its flow as much as possible while keeping as high priority the inclusion of low-income member who had virtually nothing to invest. In the end, everyone got their principal back; outside investors and large investors got most of their promised return. Members who invested less than or up to the target amount will in the end get less than half, due to last-minute extra costs and a major screw-up by the mortgage lender. Our fees are set according to a pretty standard condo budgeting methodology, adjusted to include more common activities and accounting for the fact that we do our own maintenance and management. Larger units pay more, but not strictly proportionally more than smaller ones since some line items are figured on a per-unit basis while others are allocated by size. We have a small special assessment for capital improvements that's takes income into account as well. Fees for meals, laundry and a few other small things are handled separately. David Mandel, Southside Park, Sacramento
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Common Costs Heather, March 12 1996
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