RE: Communication when times are stressful | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (floriferous![]() |
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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:38:55 -0700 (MST) |
I am currently writing a paper for the ICRP about moving in issues and how to work with them, so this is a brief ramble, off the top from my current thinking and in progress writing. I'll send the URL out when its more together. One of the challenges of cohousing is that often there is a wide diversity of reasons why people are involved and come to live there. There can be a pretty big range between folks that want a convenient condo, which has a dinner club and some pleasant social relationships and those folks that want a very intimate sharing of lives. I see this range a lot in cohousing groups, and I find it seems to work best that those that want an intimate sharing of lives to create a time/space routine to make this happen and not expect the whole community will want to make time to do this. For example, I know of several cohousing groups do a recurring intimacy sharing circle, which is attended by only a subset of people, it happens at a regular time so people can plan, but attendance at this gathering is entirely optional. The folks that want closer intimacy create it, those that DO NOT, avoid it. It is OK for people in cohousing not to want close relationships. In fact, they may have chosen cohousing specifically because the relation requirements were low enough to be tolerable for them. I have personally made the mistake as a facilitator of trying to do a intimacy circle in a cohousing group without letting those that did not want to be so involved with their neighbors escape. It was not a successful experience because the honest truth was, there were people who did not want the same thing. My mistake was believing the person that told me that everybody wanted the experience, because she saw the world as a reflection of what she wanted. This is a common reality with people, they operate under the unquestioned assumption that everyone is kind of like me, thus I should expect from them what I could expect from myself. This is described by Robert Nozik as "foundational thinking" in that you don't even question it, it is just the way you operate in the world. Obviously if you want closer relationships within the community, it is an easy step then to assume that if other people don't want the same thing, there is something wrong with them, or with the community as a whole. The intimacy level, and desire for intimacy will vary greatly in cohousing. This seems pretty normal from my perspective and I have learned the obvious: You can't force it on people that don't want it. There can also be a gender gap. Holding a women's circle and men's circle is one way to find support on either side of the gap. There are often folks who would much rather do hard physical labor, like digging ditches, than talk about their feelings. This is OK and is part of the balance of life in a large community. I have found a good course of action is to identify what makes yourself happy, and then put your energy into making that happen. If closer ties or community building is what you want, setup your own sharing circle in your house and let those that participate follow the path that it created. It seems to work well to hold at least three such events in sequence on a recurring time pattern to let those that really want it to rearrange their schedules in order to participate. So if you do just one, and only a few people attend, it may be the second time many more will attend as they adjust their schedules to make room for it. When you hold expectations of other people, you need to be able to look at yourself in the mirror very honestly and check to see if you are reflecting your own ego or needs upon other people without their consent. If you are very self honest, and do this check, and the answer is no, it is a reasonable community expectation that x,y and z happen, then you are in a good place to ask the community to honor it. But beware of your own biases based upon how you think the community should be operating. As you have discovered, living together brings up all sorts of conflicted issues. Some of them are fairly clear to define and work with: Eg, the kids toys left on the paths, the barking dog, the cats pooping in the garden beds. Eventually you will have to grapple with some deeper and harder to work with issues such as: I don't like the way you parent, or I don't like the way you look at my spouse. These kinds of conflicts can create some wounds and scar tissues which may very well impair certain relationships permanently. When you get in the deeper waters its very helpful to have a lifeguard around. Many groups contract with a family counselor to help them in these situations. It is often helpful to setup special focus circles to clarify conflicted issues. Rather than bring up kids issues as one agenda item of several in a business meeting, hold an entire meeting just about kids issues. Focus on one topic, share perspectives and ideas, and then, if particular solutions make sense, then bring those up at the business meeting. Also realize that you are just beginning to live together. You have years and years to figure this stuff out, there is no hurry and, based on my experiences in your community March, there is very little to worry about the community falling apart. It might not be exactly what you expected, but there is way more glue than gaps at Duwamish. And of course, leadership is what makes things go. Work parties happen because people do the leadership to call the time, get the materials, etc. Communication work can benefit from leadership as well. Call a special meeting to identify strengths and needs, and then follow where that path leads. You have a great set of skills and so all you need to do is apply some of them. Rob Sandelin Community Works! Http://www.ic.org/nica/cw1.htm Check out the resources on the Intentional Communities Resource Pages at: http://www.ic.org/nica/resource.htm -----Original Message----- From: cohousing-l [at] freedom2.mtn.org [mailto:cohousing-l [at] freedom2.mtn.org]On Behalf Of March Twisdale Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 7:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Communication when times are stressful Dear Fellow Cohousers, Hi, my name is March and I've not posted in awhile. I have just looked through the archives, but I feel that I'll need some back and forth discussion to better work through my current frustrations. Let me give a quick background of where we're at here in Duwamish Cohousing: Basically, construction of our 23 unit community (plus a CH and a small commons) was to take 9 months and be completed in April of 2000. Today is Thanksgiving of 2000 and we just got into our Common House about two weeks ago. We just attained substantial completion on Nov. 9th. We finally had all moved in between June 17-July 25th and have been living with construction workers constantly coming in and out of our homes, repainting, retexurizing, ripping up plants, fixing the heating, lighting, etc. It is very stressful for some of us and annoying for all of us. So, I joined in March or April of 1999 and have been somewhat concerned from the get-go about how much "Community Building" gets put off for "the next meeting" while mostly only business stuff gets done. Once we moved in, we had all talked about how much easier it would be to attend to the living together stuff, communication, etc. However, when we did finally move in people were so stressed by the construction and moving issues that instead a lot of negative attention got focused on the length of meetings (4 hours every Sunday) and we cut back to every other week meetings. Then we cut back to 3 hour meetings and now we are down to 2-hour meetings every other week. Maybe I'm wrong, but 4 hours together a month (only 4 months into living together) as a community doesn't seem like a lot of time....AND we are still shunting the Community Building stuff off to this imaginary "next meeting". This really bothers me because I see all sorts of normal "American" style behaviors emerging amongst our members...communication is falling apart...cliques are forming...people are feeling isolated...feelings are being hurt...and trust is suffering. This is what I hear from others and feel myself. So, my question is....how can I encourage more attention to these issues? We even have a "CPR" (Conflict Prevention & Resolution) team set up....but until this week they were too busy to meet until we had a problem to deal with....where's the Prevention in that? AND....I had problems way back (as have others) but there's a big sense of people being too stressed to deal with the less important issues of communication. We've had teams of people out working on Sweat Equity projects every weekend,...but no one will gather to talk about communication. Even talking about the kids (there are 18 children in our community so it's a big issue) gets chronically cut from our agendas. I'm frustrated because we're spending time on the superficial, business stuff....and ignoring the infinitely more difficult and more important interpersonal stuff. I'm scared that we will fall apart on the inside while our outsides finally get finished! Thanks for all input from others who have been there, March
- Re: Communication when times are stressful, (continued)
- Re: Communication when times are stressful Berrins, November 23 2000
- Re: Communication when times are stressful Hans Tilstra, November 23 2000
- Re: Communication when times are stressful Dahako, November 24 2000
- Re: Communication when times are stressful Steve Williams, November 24 2000
- RE: Communication when times are stressful Rob Sandelin, November 24 2000
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