Re: RE: cats: the real extreme position | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Kevin Wolf (kjwolf![]() |
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:51:02 -0600 (MDT) |
At 06:25 PM 8/30/2001 -0700, Norman Gauss wrote:
Yes, having domestic plants and animals in our environment is justified.
Well I am finally motivated to weigh in on this subject. N Street has a lot of cats - probably seven outdoor ones for our 3 acres. The environmental damage they do is incalculable because we only see a small percentage of the death they cause. We used to have snakes, lizards and toads in the gardens. They are all gone from death by well-fed cats doing what they like to do. The only birds that seem to survive are the jays and crows. Some of the rarest birds we have seen have been found dead by the cats thus we know the bird species do visit. Studies all over the world confirm that one of the biggest causes for the decline of song bird populations is from house cats. Bells don't help much either and most of the people in our community who start out saying that their cat will be an indoor cat give in and let it become an outdoor one, and add another well-fed predator to the environment.
Our community is a retrofit one so as we added neighboring houses many came with cats. Thus cats were never outlawed like dogs were. Now we have dogs in the community and us wildlife lovers would much prefer dogs over cats because dogs don't kill as many (or any) wild animals. We gave up having our community be a haven for endangered wildlife. Some of us feel bad that our gardens attract birds that then become prey to the cats.
Sorry Norman but I don't believe cats in garden environments are justified. Keep them in indoor environments and keep dogs out of wildlife areas where they chase down deer and wreck havoc.
And we won't talk about the amount of animal protein most cats eat and where it comes from and the harm it does to the environment in the process because most cat owners don't want to think about this.
By the way, you can probably guess that I am not an animal "lover" in part because I believe what M. Scott Peck said - we can only love those who can grow spiritually from our love. We can't really love chocolate or pets. And if we think we can help them grow to their full spiritual potential, wouldn't it be better to use that love and attention on a human?
Awaiting the outcry from the pet lovers, Kevin **************** Kevin Wolf N Street Cohousing Community member 724 N St, Davis, CA 95616 530-758-4211 kjwolf [at] dcn.davis.ca.us To download my facilitation manual or other material on consensus decision making, visit www.dcn.davis.ca.us/go/kjwolf _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
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