Re: Taxes and the Common Good | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rosa Leah (rcarson![]() |
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 12:15:01 -0600 (MDT) |
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Rowenahc wrote: > > Molly Williams said: > "We are non-parents, most of whose property taxes goes to pay for the local > public school system. While I believe that having an educated > populace is a benefit to the whole society, parents or not, it still > irks me to have to pay ever-increasing taxes for other people's kids > to go to school." > > I find it surprising to find this kind of sentiment on a cohousing > list, since a major value shared by most cohousers is that community > is vitally important and that community occurs when we all try to pay > attention to the needs of our neighbors not just ourselves. It seems to me that this thread is getting tangled on the issue of children, and specifics on that front, rather than the question of "how does the community deal with things that directly benefit some but not other members of the community?" Anything having to do with children is complicated here: On the one hand, you have non-parents feeling like they're being asked to take some level of responsibility for other people's children. This might be touchy because they feel imposed upon, or because they feel their portion of the assistance is being taken for granted. It might also be touchy for more personal reasons, like wanting kids and not being able to have them, or not wanting kids and feeling social pressure about that choice. On the other hand, you have parents feeling like their children are part of the community and therefore, the community should pitch in on things like child care for community events (in cohousing) or education (in the larger social structure). Raising children is expensive, but it does benefit the community and society as a whole. How can the community support parents and be welcoming of children while not alienating non-parents? The main thing, to my mind, to alleviate this kind of tension, is for there to be recognition of the work everyone does. When I play with someone else's child/ren, I do so because I enjoy it, but it's still really nice to get a thank you, or some other statement of appreciation. Just the same way that I might help with the dishes at someone else's house after having dinner there and feel good about being thanked and appreciated for that. In both of these cases, I derive a benefit from the time I spend playing with children or doing dishes -- I get to form a r'ship with the children, or I just had a nice dinner cooked by someone else (yes, my cohousing community is not yet built :), but so does the other person benefit -- the parents get a little rest from their child, or the cook gets to relax after dinner rather than cleaning. In my own life, confronting parental and other expectations of help, the sense of entitlement to my assistance is what ends up raising my hackles. Do I think non-parents should help with childcare in cohousing for group events or meetings? You bet! Do I think they deserve appreciation for that? Yes, I do. Otherwise, it feels onerous and unfair, even if it only comes out to a few dollars a month. My two cents, Rosa Mosaic Commons Cohousing somewhere, eastern MA http://www.mosaic-commons.org And why should night and day be so radically divided? Is there anyone for whom loving and thinking are lived as different beginnings? Would I have to spend my days with the one and my nights with the other? -- Luce Irigaray _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
- Re: Giving or Taking, (continued)
- Re: Giving or Taking Molly Williams, October 2 2001
- Re: Giving or Taking Elizabeth Stevenson, October 2 2001
- Re: Giving or Taking Chris ScottHanson, October 2 2001
- Taxes and the Common Good Rowenahc, October 2 2001
- Re: Taxes and the Common Good Rosa Leah, October 2 2001
- Re: Taxes and the Common Good Molly Williams, October 2 2001
- Re: Taxes and the Common Good Molly Williams, October 2 2001
- Re: Giving or Taking Diane R. Margolis, October 2 2001
- Re: Giving or Taking Rosa Leah, October 2 2001
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