Re: Taxes and the Common Good | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Molly Williams (mmw![]() |
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 12:35:02 -0600 (MDT) |
Rosa, I appreciate your two cents and agree with what you've said. (I was going to pull out the parts I most agreed with, but that would be the whole message!) Thanks for your thoughtful post, which also gets to the point of the original post, perceived feelings of entitlement. ~ Molly Wms. Rosa Leah wrote: <others' comments snipped> > It seems to me that this thread is getting tangled on the issue of > children, and specifics on that front, rather than the question of "how > does the community deal with things that directly benefit some but not > other members of the community?" > > Anything having to do with children is complicated here: On the one hand, > you have non-parents feeling like they're being asked to take some level > of responsibility for other people's children. This might be touchy > because they feel imposed upon, or because they feel their portion of the > assistance is being taken for granted. It might also be touchy for more > personal reasons, like wanting kids and not being able to have them, or > not wanting kids and feeling social pressure about that choice. On the > other hand, you have parents feeling like their children are part of the > community and therefore, the community should pitch in on things like > child care for community events (in cohousing) or education (in the larger > social structure). Raising children is expensive, but it does benefit the > community and society as a whole. How can the community support parents > and be welcoming of children while not alienating non-parents? > > The main thing, to my mind, to alleviate this kind of tension, is for > there to be recognition of the work everyone does. When I play with > someone else's child/ren, I do so because I enjoy it, but it's still > really nice to get a thank you, or some other statement of > appreciation. Just the same way that I might help with the dishes at > someone else's house after having dinner there and feel good about being > thanked and appreciated for that. In both of these cases, I derive a > benefit from the time I spend playing with children or doing dishes -- I > get to form a r'ship with the children, or I just had a nice dinner cooked > by someone else (yes, my cohousing community is not yet built :), but so > does the other person benefit -- the parents get a little rest from their > child, or the cook gets to relax after dinner rather than cleaning. > > In my own life, confronting parental and other expectations of help, the > sense of entitlement to my assistance is what ends up raising my > hackles. Do I think non-parents should help with childcare in cohousing > for group events or meetings? You bet! Do I think they deserve > appreciation for that? Yes, I do. Otherwise, it feels onerous and > unfair, even if it only comes out to a few dollars a month. > > My two cents, > Rosa > > Mosaic Commons Cohousing > somewhere, eastern MA > http://www.mosaic-commons.org > > And why should night and day be so radically divided? > Is there anyone for whom loving and thinking > are lived as different beginnings? > Would I have to spend my days with the one and my nights with the other? > -- Luce Irigaray > > _______________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list > Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: > http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l -- Molly Williams Volunteer, Waterboro Public Library: http://www.waterboro.lib.me.us mmw [at] waveinter.com "The essence of immorality is the tendency to make an exception of one's self." -- Jane Addams, social worker and Nobel Peace Laureate _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
- Re: Giving or Taking, (continued)
- Re: Giving or Taking Elizabeth Stevenson, October 2 2001
- Re: Giving or Taking Chris ScottHanson, October 2 2001
- Taxes and the Common Good Rowenahc, October 2 2001
- Re: Taxes and the Common Good Rosa Leah, October 2 2001
- Re: Taxes and the Common Good Molly Williams, October 2 2001
- Re: Taxes and the Common Good Molly Williams, October 2 2001
- Re: Giving or Taking Diane R. Margolis, October 2 2001
- Re: Giving or Taking Rosa Leah, October 2 2001
- Re: Giving or Taking Molly Williams, October 2 2001
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