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From: Lynn Nadeau (welcome![]() |
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 19:34:06 -0600 (MDT) |
Dear Cohousing-L listserver: I want cohousing to be easy! A garden of social delights. With magic elves to deal with the work and the prudence and make all conflict melt away. Once upon a time it sounded like that in the books and articles I read. But no. Last night's discussion circle on common house uses left me tense. A year in, we are using our beautiful CH well for meals, socials, personal parties, meetings of members' groups. Yet it is often empty - all day many days, plus several evenings a week. Now we have a lot of people who want to make it available for concerts/workshops/classes which, though organized or sponsored by a member, would invite the Public. We tried a few, and it seemed like, in moderation anyway, it was pleasant and was satisfying to the sponsoring members and enriching to the larger town community. (Had a guitar-orchestra concert with 85 attenders, a guru workshop that had 40-50 visitors during two days, a parenting class that met for 7 Tuesday evenings. Attenders paid money, and we got a buck a person, and the rest went to the performers/teachers: each event netted us about $100.) And we have people who want to use our health-department-certified kitchen to prepare food to sell or serve to the Public, for various worthy causes (Unitarian bake sale, Land Trust dinner, etc) here or elsewhere. We also have members who think it would be great to use the kitchen for catering business to help them support themselves- it was an early cohousing vision of ours that people could work close to home, using community facilities somehow. Like the home office spaces we never figured how to do. Or the workshop ditto. Some people would like to "sell" dinners at the CH to the public. But our insurance company says any "public" use is not covered by our liability insurance, and we could get sued over food poisoning or falls etc etc. So one member's satisfaction could expose all of us to lawsuits and devastating expenses. And what about our status as a nonprofit, if we "rent" to someone for catering or dances or such? And who administers it all, fielding requests, checking outside user's own insurance (if that can cover us??), following up on clean up etc. Is it fair to the rest of us, who paid for the building and its taxes and utilities and insurance etc, if a few members use it intensively? Socially, in human terms, it seems really important to facilitate individual members' desires and satisfactions and participation in worthy causes. Having concerts and classes and stuff seems like a positive thing. But we also have had a bad experience with a liability situation (during our construction) and some are strongly concerned that they not get personally exposed to the risk, and that the community not, again, have to devote hundreds of hours of volunteer time to processing a risk situation. What do you do? Have you figured out how to use your CH for member-initiated public events, or for commercial cooking or cooking for outside events, without exposing yourselves to liability risks? Have you found a way to administer such uses in a way that doesn't unfairly burden those you use it less? Is your CH a resource just for members and their guests, or for the public if members sponsor something, or for rent to the outside world? Do tell. Overwhelmed in Washington Lynn Nadeau, RoseWind Cohousing Port Townsend Washington (Victorian seaport, music, art, nature) http://www.rosewind.org http://www.ptguide.com _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
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common house tensions to resolve Lynn Nadeau, June 14 2002
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