Re: Discrimination (for any reason) | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: C.C. Barron (ccbarron![]() |
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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:06:02 -0700 (MST) |
sbraun wrote: > Maybe it is human > nature: maybe we should "allow" for people to seek out sameness in their > neighbors. But we ought not ever, ever deny housing or access to > housing, either overtly or covertly, to somebody because they are > different from us. And I believe we ought to work very hard to expand > our tolerance for differences to include meat-eaters, tv-watchers, > grease-cookers, public-schoolers, beer-drinkers with pot bellies, > addicted sports-watchers, video-game junkies, juice-box consumers, > perfume-wearers, smokers, advocates of the war in Iraq, and people with > smelly armpits, not to mention the old and the young. > > Enjoying the discussion, > > Sheila > I too have been following this thread with interest. Sheila's assertion above really set me back. Applied to our community, her statement suggests that our interest in encouraging members to self-select around values like ecology and simple living might be a form of bigotry. In the spirit of self-questioning Rachaeli has been modeling, I had to think about that one a while. I came up with three ideas that might be pertinent... 1. (I think someone else made this point already, maybe me, but it bears repeating) -- values are to a certain extent a choice and demographics (race, etc.) aren't, so there is a difference between preferring to live with people who hold similar central values to one's own and preferring to live with other white people. The latter is prejudice and by definition superficial, since those white people around you might have very different values. The former might be called discernment instead of discrimination? 2. I'm much more tolerant of other adults I interact with than I am of the children my children interact with -- I feel the need to protect them from values I don't share. It's one thing to agree to disagree with others about such things as violent toys and TV-watching when their children don't have direct contact with one's own. I do want some shared values with the parents of the children my children are freely playing with. Part of why I'm interested in cohousing is that I've had enough already of neighborhoods in which all the boys are popping out from nowhere and ambushing people with their toy guns (too common in Texas, unfortunately). I frankly want to keep my 1- and 4-year-old sons away from that kind of thing until they're old enough not to be swayed by what all the older boys are doing. 3. I hope that my attitudes in 1 and 2 above doesn't prevent me from living in a community which is diverse in other, interesting ways. (In fact, our community is already diverse in many ways, while retaining a core of shared values, so I think I can assert that this is indeed possible.) Cat Barron Oak Village Commons Austin, TX www.oakhillcohousing.org P.S. I am a big fan of cosmologist Brian Swimme, coauthor of The Universe Story. He has made the point that in order to create a new community it is necessary to separate a bit from the larger community. If you subject yourselves to all the evolutionary pressures that have created the current solution, you will be forced back to that solution. He cites the analogy of Australian animals -- they evolved differently because they were cut off from the mainland populations. In my mind this justifies a partial separation from mainstream consumerism, for example, in order to foster simple living. This intentional separation from some mainstream values may seem to be intolerant in a way, but perhaps it is necessary in order to foster new social forms (like cohousing) which promise to lead our society in a new, healthier direction. Of course I'm aware one could take this too far... _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L
- Re: Discrimination (for any reason), (continued)
- Re: Discrimination (for any reason) racheli, February 19 2003
- RE: Discrimination (for any reason) sbraun, February 20 2003
- RE: Discrimination (for any reason) racheli, February 20 2003
- RE: Discrimination (for any reason) sbraun, February 21 2003
- Re: Discrimination (for any reason) C.C. Barron, February 20 2003
- Re: Discrimination (for any reason) Kay Argyle, February 27 2003
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