Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Kitchen design Dishwashers

[Alexander Robin A (alexande.robi]

At Eno Commons cohousing, where I used to live, we had a commercial dishwasher 
in the kitchen. It was well placed to facilitate loading from the sink area and 
unloading on a part of the counter. I thought it worked excellently for them 
and I never heard any complaints about it from any cleanup crew (except perhaps 
the noise). It had several benefits: cleanup of dishes went fast, everything, 
including large pots, could be sterilized and when cleanup was over everything 
was all set for the next meal. A home style unit cannot accommodate large pots 
and they are difficult to clean thoroughly by hand.
 
True, the dishes have to be pretty food free when loaded but soaking and 
spraying took care of that pretty well. From all the pro and con I've been 
hearing and my two experiences with commercial and several with residential 
dishwashers, I guess I'm still leaning to commercial if the noise issue can be 
solved.
 
Robin Alexander

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From: Casey Morrigan [mailto:cjmorr [at] pacbell.net]
Sent: Fri 12/8/2006 9:16 AM
To: 'Cohousing-L'
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Kitchen design Dishwashers



I know this has been covered before in Coho-L, so a check of the archives is
in order.

For the commercial style in which you load and reload constantly for a short
cycle, you need enough room to deal with the racks and the dripping. And
people with good backs to heft the racks in and out. However, you can be
done with the dishes in a short time. Residential dishwashers keep things
lots simpler.

We have a commercial Bosch washer in our Common House. Big mistake (I voted
- rather, consensed - to buy it too.  D'oh!!) . It doesn't have a food
grinder, which most residential brands have, and it regularly gets backed up
as a result. It is also finicky and we have to wash all food particles off
before the dishes go in or else they get distributed around and baked on to
the dishes. It does sterilize the dishes.  But...having lived with it for
several years, I wish we had a plain old residential washer.  Our CH galley
kitchen is too small to handle the racks and loads from a quick-cycle
commercial washer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Robin A [mailto:alexande.robi [at] uwlax.edu]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 7:51 PM
To: Cohousing-L
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Kitchen design Dishwashers

Wouldn't mind seeing those myself. What about the hour long cycle time on
the home-style vs. 3 min on the commercial? With several loads, would take a
long time with home styles.

Robin Alexander

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From: Ruth Hirsch [mailto:heidinys [at] earthlink.net]
Sent: Thu 12/7/2006 8:35 PM
To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
Subject: [C-L]_ Kitchen design Dishwashers



Dear Judy,

Am sending you a compilation of emails I've found in the CoHo archives on
dishwashers.
I'd support going with two home-style ones.
Much better ecologically, as Consumer Reports says dishes do not need to be
pre-rinsed.  With coimmercial type, pre-rinsing is needed...
wastes lots of water.  One of many reasons to choose homestyle.

best,
Ruth J . Hirsch
Cantines Island CoHo
Ulster County, NY
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