Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Kitchen design Dishwashers

[tamgoddess (tamgoddess]

Too expensive for the commonhouse? That idea puzzles me. The cost is minor if 
spread out over all the households.

We have a Bosch and a Kitchenaid. I think any really high-quality residential 
dishwasher is fine. We use 2 for meals of 30-40 people, and it works well. I 
think it's important to note that we serve cafeteria-style, and folks who serve 
family-style will have more dishes. They might want 3 dishwashers, I don't know.

I'm strongly anti-commercial anything, as I think it makes the CH kitchen feel 
less homey, amongst other problems. Bigger and/or commercial is not necessarily 
better, especially for children and disabled people.

It's really, really important for everyone to feel that they are contributing, 
and not excluded, by the design of your CH.

Liz
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Trudy Reeves <trudyreeves [at] yahoo.com>
> I have a Bosch in my apartment that is the best dishwasher I've ever owned  - 
> I've previously owned KitchenAide and GE.  The Bosch is quiet and energy 
> efficient.  Yes, I have to scrape off dishes, but I seldom have to rinse 
> them.  
> I only run it two or three times a week and have never had a problem with it 
> getting hardened food off.  But like the Meile, it is probably too expensive 
> for 
> most common houses.
>  
> Trudy 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Casey Morrigan <cjmorr [at] pacbell.net>
> To: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2006 10:16:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Kitchen design Dishwashers
> 
> 
> I know this has been covered before in Coho-L, so a check of the archives is
> in order.
> 
> For the commercial style in which you load and reload constantly for a short
> cycle, you need enough room to deal with the racks and the dripping. And
> people with good backs to heft the racks in and out. However, you can be
> done with the dishes in a short time. Residential dishwashers keep things
> lots simpler.
> 
> We have a commercial Bosch washer in our Common House. Big mistake (I voted
> - rather, consensed - to buy it too.  D'oh!!) . It doesn't have a food
> grinder, which most residential brands have, and it regularly gets backed up
> as a result. It is also finicky and we have to wash all food particles off
> before the dishes go in or else they get distributed around and baked on to
> the dishes. It does sterilize the dishes.  But...having lived with it for
> several years, I wish we had a plain old residential washer.  Our CH galley
> kitchen is too small to handle the racks and loads from a quick-cycle
> commercial washer.
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