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From: Oliveau (Oliveau |
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| Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:55:12 -0700 (PDT) | |
Hey Joel,
In our group we have a Facilitation Team which is responsible for
creating the agenda for Plenary meetings. Often there are a lot of issues
competing for group discussion time. The Facilitation Team needs to prepare
for
discussion, often sending out supporting documents prior to the meeting. The
team also makes sure that issues don't get lost, and that low priority issues
also get some discussion time. In the early days of our community, when there
was a lot of conflict, the Facilitation Team preparation meetings ran longer
than the actual Plenary meetings.
I've seen groups fall into talking about what to talk about. Usually,
it means that there's a part of the group that really doesn't want to talk
about that issue, and they are using procedure to block actual discussion.
They
are so afraid of the issue, that they would prefer to spend lots of group
time talking about whether or not it's appropriate to talk about it, usually
in
the name of not wasting group time. In that case, your facilitators need to
realize that there is emotion around this issue, and it needs to be
confronted, not swept under the rug. Refusing to discuss something is
"non-negotiable negativity," i.e. "I refuse to agree and I refuse to talk
about why I
refuse to agree." This is a consensus no-no.
Refusing to re-consider issues can have bad long-term consequences. One
way to resolve a conflict is to agree to try it one way for a fixed period
of time and then re-consider. If people feel that once a decision is made,
it can never be changed, you won't have that option for reaching consensus
and people will be much more fearful about making the wrong decision.
On the other hand, if this is an issue that the group feels is resolved
but one person is unhappy about it. Or there is a new person who wants to
reconsider everything. You need to be balanced, respectful of group time, and
prevent individuals from hijacking the agenda whenever they feel like it.
Time limits on discussion are a good tool here. A facilitator can say, "OK,
I'm hearing that Jim really wants to revisit this issue, but the rest of the
group feels that there's not much value to such a discussion and there are
more
pressing issues. So let's limit the discussion to 15 minutes and then move
on." You give the person a chance to be heard, and to hear others, but you
give the lets-move-on-group a point in time when the group will turn to other
issues.
Hope that helps,
-Kevin Oliveau
Catoctin Creek Village
In a message dated 9/10/2007 7:35:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
fholson [at] cohousing.org writes:
COHOrts:
A question regarding consensus--Our community uses consensus as our
decision-making process, with CT Butler's essay as a guideline. A
question arose yesterday about revisiting an issue on which consensus
had been reached several years ago. The more procedurally-oriented of us
(still hearing crackles, perhaps, from remaining synapses of Roberts'
Rules of Order) wanted first to reach consensus on a proposal to revisit
the earlier consensus. Others said that simply reopening discussion was
an implicit agreement to revisit the earlier consensus, but that without
a new consensus, the old decision stands. This last is what Butler
writes in his essay.
It seems to me, in the light of the morning, that trying to arrive at a
consensus to revisit an earlier consensus is inherently virtually
impossible, given that some members have already expressed some
disaffection with the earlier decision; that not agreeing to revisit the
issue undemocratically silences those who wish to reopen the discussion.
Our group has decided to continue work on the issue in a smaller group
(a traditional consensus next-step), implicitly acknowledging that the
earlier consensus IS being revisited, without a formal proposal to
revisit.
So here's where I'd like input: Do any of the consensus-based or
sociocracy groups have language about revisiting earlier consensi
(consensuses? consensim?) or experience that may help a group with very
varied backgrounds in consensus better understand this issue.
A further question: the issue at question is that our current Rules and
Regulations require members of the Community Owners Association to be
partners in our tree farm business venture, a separately-incorporated
LLC. Those Coho groups with attached or covalent businesses--how do you
handle the issue of a COA member not wishing to be joined legally to
that business?
Joel Plotkin
Hundredfold Farm
Orrtanna, PA
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- Re: Revisiting Consensus, (continued)
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Re: Revisiting Consensus dahako, September 10 2007
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