Re: Losses | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Raines Cohen (rc3-coho-L![]() |
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:26:43 -0700 (PDT) |
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Nikki Sachs <nikkisachs [at] gmail.com> wrote: > I am a member of a cohousing group that made some decisions that ended up > with the group losing some money. We are wondering if any others groups > have lost money and if so, how you managed to recoup those losses? We are > hoping to roll the loss into a new project and wonder if others have any > experience along these lines or have other ideas. Thanks. Hi, Nikki. I can fill in some context for the list so that others can give you some potentially more-useful recommendations, and recommend a few resources. The following is all personal opinion as an outside observer, not based on inside information from the group. I have not done any work for the group, although as a regional organizer I have cheered them on from the sidelines and coordinated events like a Green Festival booth where they participated and contributed. Nikki's group is in Northern California. It started with a particular site, and spent significant funds on an option on that site, and on a cohousing consultant for development-related services, working more than a year. The group wanted to "save money," so it pursued self-development; a cohousing professional firm was invited to become a development partner but declined, based on capacity limitations combined with the small size of the project limiting the potential return and making it riskier. The group walked away from the site, and was unable to get a refund on its option, after doing lots of work to secure entitlements, based on a feasibility study that said there would be no way to sell the units at market prices if it built a unit mix suitable to serve the needs of the group. The change in local/regional/national market conditions was a factor, as well as group dynamics that made it difficult to gather sufficient information to make effective decisions and to work effectively with its advisors to build on the strengths of each. The group had set itself up as a Limited Liability Corporation (LLC) for the purposes of investing together to acquire the property and start the development process. Members have invested tens of thousands of dollars per household (what I sometimes call "5-digit money", versus the 4-digit money that typically goes toward search efforts and the 3-digit money for workshops and 2-digit money towards dues) towards these "sunk costs" that have no (as far as I can see) potential value towards any future project it pursues; fortunately, it also spent money on workshops and group-infrastructure development that can serve it with another site and, with full-group and committee meetings happening very frequently for a long time. The group is now trying to reconstitute itself as a site-search group and is engaging professional facilitation help to make difficult decisions around site-search criteria and whether initial members have any chance of recovering their investments. It has no marketable assets with value to anyone else that I can see, but it does have potential to "keep the engine running" and work together to find a new site that it might be able to develop. The big question to me is whether the benefit of being an up-and-running group that's done the hard work together overcomes the handicap of starting with a significant deficit. I know I would personally feel reluctant to join a group knowing that it could only consider a project large and profitable enough to absorb these "sunk costs" in its budget. I know many people in the group and would love to see them succeed... for their own sake, as well as for the cohousing movement, regionally and nationally. The one example that came to mind is Mosaic Commons in Massachusetts, which is under construction now after what seems like nearly a decade of a site-search process including loss of a seemingly-secured site a few years back. Can anyone there talk about what kept the group together and how the funds spent and invested were accounted for / affected the final project's budget? Perhaps members of other groups who have learned from their failures, or found success in this realm, can comment? Raines Cohen, Cohousing Coach Planning for Sustainable Communities (at Berkeley (CA) Cohousing) Northern California Cohousing Regional Organizer Hosting Ithaca EcoVillage Founder/Author Liz Walker and L.A. EcoVillage founder Lois Arkin at the Digital Be-In in San Francisco THIS FRIDAY evening... join us! http://www.be-in.com/
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Losses Nikki Sachs, April 20 2008
- Re: Losses Raines Cohen, April 21 2008
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Re: Losses Catya Belfer-Shevett, April 21 2008
- Re: Losses Sarah Florreich, April 21 2008
- Re: Losses Elizabeth Magill, April 22 2008
- Re: Losses Craig Ragland, April 22 2008
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