Re: Losses | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Craig Ragland (craigragland![]() |
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:59:12 -0700 (PDT) |
Note: this is my personal opinion, and not some type of "official position" of Coho/US, which does not offer "official" advice. There is, I think, a lot of wisdom in this lesson. As long as you can carry on and complete your project, there's a reasonable chance that any "financial mistakes" can just be absorbed into the project, and become a very small percent of the total budget (today, most cohousing communities are multi-million dollar real estate development projects). That being said, actually coping with the doubt and fear from "large mistakes" is very hard, especially for smaller core groups. My community, Songaia Cohousing, made some serious development mistakes - including our original legal structure (we were a highly values-driven Coop vs. a practically-focused LLC/HOA) and our initial architectural designs (first we designed custom homes and then designed production housing). The financial cost of these mistakes were relatively modest, but the project delay costs were large - we lost many wonderful folks - who are not among my Songaia neighbors. In our case, the loss of these members didn't affect our project schedule (much), but it sure affected our morale. Some Forming Groups have choosen to spend their limited resources on relatively unimportant pieces of their project - I've heard many of these stories of late. If you spend a lot early, without a feasible project in hand and without addressing the group's core needs, then your project and group lives in risk. This makes it very hard to continue onward. If your group does dissolve, all is (typically) lost and groups that "cut their losses" early loose less money. Personally, I vote for making good decisions, being cautious about spending on project components that are best delayed. Do consider whether your group is reinventing wheels. I'm quite sure that a higher percentage of the groups that have built have taken advantage of the many people that are available to help you succeed. These folks include grass roots cohousing advocates from Coho-L and the Cohousing Website, as well as Cohousing Professionals - where the hope is that your money focuses positive attention and effort on your behalf. I suspect that the two Songaia mistakes I noted could have been avoided if we had adopted less of a Do-It-Yourself ethic (we self-developed). I regret not having sought more cohousing-specific advice from sources like Coho-L. In our case, people with strong Cooperative values were most persuasive, but most of them had little Cohousing experience. And our architect, who was also new to cohousing, was excited about custom-designed homes - it was infectous and we spent our money on essentially useless designs before the second, production-home designs. If we had been less together in our group dynamics we might not have ever built. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Sarah Florreich <sflorreich [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Catya Belfer-Shevett > <catya [at] homeport.org> wrote: > > In terms of how the accounting works, we basically put it in a line > item > > as a project expense, along with all of the other project expenses. > Our > > fabulous finance person reads the list, so she can say exactly which, > > but it might have gone in the marketing/membership line item? > > > > Honestly, rolled into the final project bucket? Even 6 digit money > > doesn't break the bank. (Says me, anyway.) > > > > Yes, our project is so large that even at $200K of sunk costs, it is > not really noticeable to the bank (2% of our oveall budget), so in > that way we were "lucky". From what I've learned, one could allocate > it out to the lines it was spent on (legal, engineering, etc), or lump > it all in one unrelated, generic category like we did, as long as it > doesn't cause that line item in the budget to look greatly out of line > to what a bank would normally expect for that line item. > > No one who has ever bought in after we did all that prior work has > objected to having to pay for this, as we make it clear it's the price > to get where we are. Often one has to try a few times to get the > right land/buildings at the right time, when the stars are aligned and > all that. :-) > > - Sarah > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > > -- > Craig Ragland > > Coho/US executive director > http://www.cohousing.org > craig [at] cohousing.org > > Please try email first, include your phone number (w/time zone) - or give > me a call: 425-487-3550 (Pacific)... communicate! >
- Re: Losses, (continued)
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Re: Losses Raines Cohen, April 21 2008
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Re: Losses Catya Belfer-Shevett, April 21 2008
- Re: Losses Sarah Florreich, April 21 2008
- Re: Losses Elizabeth Magill, April 22 2008
- Re: Losses Craig Ragland, April 22 2008
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Re: Losses Catya Belfer-Shevett, April 21 2008
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Re: Losses Raines Cohen, April 21 2008
- Re: Losses Jenny Guy, April 22 2008
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