Re: Required handicap access to 2nd floor/elevator | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Alexander Robin A (alexande.robi![]() |
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:46:13 -0700 (PDT) |
Having been healthy and able bodied all my life, I confess I hadn't thought a lot about handicap accessibility until my wife became disabled and unable to use stairs. I quickly became very sensitive to the issue. In the cohousing we are building now in Madison, WI (Arboretum Cohousing) we worked hard at making the common areas and the new units accessible. The problem with not building accessibility in right at the start is that if a member becomes disabled at some point after move in, they are then excluded in various ways such as not being able to visit certain members or not being able to use some resources in the common house (or even get into the common house). One thing to remember is that any one of us at any time can become unable to use stairs, walk at all or on rough surfaces, and so on. Unless one wants the situation where if that happens the person essentially has to move out, it's best to do what one can to provide for accessibility. Robin Alexander ________________________________ From: laura [mailto:lrifkin12 [at] mac.com] Sent: Thu 5/8/2008 2:41 PM To: Cohousing-L Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Required handicap access to 2nd floor/elevator Dear Matthew, Perhaps if you really understood the "human" cost to your friend and others in that situation, you would not be so quick to discount the need for access. If it were you in the situation I suspect your thinking would be different. The fact that some disabled folks cope with inhumane situations, is not an excuse to perpetuate attitudes and architecture of exclusion for people with disabilities (which ultimately will be everyone at some point in life). It is these very kinds of arguments that led to many civil rights demonstrations and necessitated legislating access. Left to their own devices even inclusive communities may opt to be non- inclusive, apparently. Truly, you might want to check with disabled people in your surrounding communities about what access really constitutes and not make assumptions which create more hardship for those who already have sufficient challenge. Also, when it comes to access it is best to let disabled folks have a say in it. The "super- crip" stereotype is one that is not helpful for most folks with disabilities. Perhaps the co-housing list should compile a list of co-housing sites where people have really thought about this issue and are committed to access and a list of places where there is just minimal accommodation and a lack of desire to do more. That would help disabled folks to know where they are not really welcome and where they are fully embraced as members of the community. I think it's good to see a discussion like this out in the open. It reminds me that access like most civil rights is not necessarily well understood by those who do not face the same challenges in life. Laura
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- Re: Required handicap access to 2nd floor/elevator melanie griffin, May 8 2008
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Re: Required handicap access to 2nd floor/elevator Ann Zabaldo, May 8 2008
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Re: Required handicap access to 2nd floor/elevator Matthew Whiting, May 8 2008
- Re: Required handicap access to 2nd floor/elevator laura, May 8 2008
- Re: Required handicap access to 2nd floor/elevator Alexander Robin A, May 9 2008
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Re: Required handicap access to 2nd floor/elevator Matthew Whiting, May 8 2008
- Re: Required handicap access to 2nd floor/elevator Sharon Villines, May 9 2008
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