Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Dishwashers & Santitizers

[Racheli Gai (racheli]

Regarding Asko:
I had an Asko dish washer - which I bought about a decade ago because  
it was the highest rated
dishwasher for both water and energy use.  It was a piece of crap, and  
did an inferior  job
at cleaning the dishes.
I don't know if all Asko dishwashers are that bad, but when I recently  
researched what new machine
to buy, Asko dishwashers still didn't get very high ratings.  We ended  
up buying a bosch, and now
we have clean dishes.

My point is that the problem might be the dishwasher, not necessarily  
the detergent.

Racheli.


On Nov 11, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Lyle Scheer wrote:

> At Ashland Cohousing Community (www.ashlandcoho.com), we have a  
> consumer
> dishwasher (forget exact model... base Asko model)
>
> However, I notice two things done by my group that consistently  
> befuddle me.
>
> 1) An insistence on using "green" dishwashing detergent
> 2) Packing the dishwasher as tightly as possible (not following
> recommended manufacturer procedure)
>
> and because of these two things and getting dirty dishes out at the  
> end,
> unless you add step:
>
> 0) Pre-rinse all dishes to a practically clean state.
>
> Which, to my mind, pretty much negates the "green"ess of the green
> detergent or any savings of an energy star dishwasher.  Well... not
> entirely, we're still reducing the use of phosphates, but we're not
> saving any energy.
>
> Personally, I think we really need two dishwashers, the use of  
> standard
> detergent, and better loading practices, no rinsing and we'd be
> "greener" that we are currently being.  Of course, where to put the
> second dishwasher is a good question.
>
> I'd be happy to be convinced otherwise on non-phosphate based  
> detergents
> if anyone knows of any good ones that get dishes clean without
> pre-rinsing and proper stacking.
>
> - Lyle
>
> On 11/11/10 11:33 AM, Sharon Villines wrote:
> > What is the current state of practice in terms of residential-type  
> > dishwashers? Sanitizers?
> >
> > Do people do pans in them?
> >
> > How many loads do you do?
> >
> > Are you sorry you switched to them?
> >
> > Of did anyone switch?
> >
> > What kind do you have?
> >
> > We are facing $1600 motor replacement in our commercial  
> > freestanding style sanitizer and not all of us want to replace it.
> >
> > Some people love it.
> >
> > Sharon
> > ----
> > Sharon Villines
> > Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
> > http://www.takomavillage.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
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