Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Thomas Lofft (tlofft![]() |
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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:34:50 -0700 (PDT) |
RE: Exit Signs, Fire Alarms, and Other Ugly Things; > We wish our otherwise wonderful architects had taken these requirements into > account because we were too naive to have foreseen them. I agree. We found, unfortunately that the systems people seem to have come in later after the architects were finished and applied their pipes, etc. on top of what was previously designed. The sprinkler pipes, huge ones, in the basement block the HVAC unit rather strangely. You have to reach around them. Two sewage ejector pumps were installed in basements that people had planned to use as living space. In the attic we discovered that the electricians had strung wires over the flexible air ducts and then pulled them tight, closing off the air ducts. The air duct people knew their ducts worked with they left. The electrical wires worked when the electricians left. But later?... Designing living spaces, particularly multiunit spaces is very complicated with layers and layers of just plain stuff to be put somewhere. Sharon Unfortunately, architects seldom show the ugly. The drawings always show clean walls, sometimes graced with decor items, but never showing even a light switch or outlet, much less the Exit Signs or sprinkler heads or alarm panels or pull boxes. I have often thought there must be a person in charge of the Fire and Emergency codes charged with verifying the Ugly Factor for all code requirements. On the exterior, the down spouts are never delineated unless specifically demanded. A request will never be enough to get them drawn in. Same for the gas meter, electric meter, power and communications cables, transformer pads, cable and telecomm pedestals, or the fire lane and stop signs. Sometimes, they may be included on a traffic control plan, but often that is prepared by the civil traffic designer and may never be shown to the client. "This is technical stuff." Do any of our cohousing architects include this level of detailing? And despite the most detailed architectural design, the MEP drawings are always schematic, never detailed and the installers may even simply install piping directly from the building point of service entry directly to the nearest stack chase, diagonally across a utility room or sublevel, without any consideration of whether or not they have totally compromised the potential use of a residual space. This becomes the charge of the construction project manager to clarify with the installers exactly what constraints have to be honored in preserving space for future functions and placing fixtures for optimum service and acceptable appearance, not purely for code compliance. Yes, it adds to expense to have to hire additional people to continuously check to assure that the other paid professionals really do a professional, considerate job. Did you know that an electrician can fully wire an office building in compliance with the code and never have to install a hallway outlet for a floor cleaner? Thanks for writing. Tom LofftLiberty Village, MD
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things, (continued)
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Bryan Bowen, March 12 2012
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Sharon Villines, March 13 2012
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Dane Laverty, March 12 2012
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Sharon Villines, March 12 2012
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