Re: other type of members - aka associate members thread
From: Diana Carroll (dianaecarrollgmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 07:23:54 -0700 (PDT)
Oh, as to nearby cohousing...haha, yes, about 50 feet away: Camelot
Cohousing.  Funny story -- both our groups were looking for land in the
area. We were vaguely aware of each other's existence but hadn't really
interacted.  Then they found land that was too big and too expensive for
one group, so they contacted us, and we jointly built two subcommunities
under one umbrella condo association.  The communities are quite distinct,
with different bylaws and cultures, but we share a lot of costs (big stuff
like our water treatment system, insurance, road maintenance), have a lot
of cross-group friendships, have some shared social events, etc.

Diana

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:17 AM Diana Carroll <dianaecarroll [at] gmail.com>
wrote:

> For all procedural details, take a look at our website:
> https://mosaic-commons.org/membership
> https://mosaic-commons.org/affiliates
>
> All members of the cohousing group pay dues, both affiliates and resident
> members. Every year we come up with a budget for the following year, and
> affiliates and members choose how much to pay following our "sliding scale"
> policy: https://mosaic-commons.org/slidingscale
> Most affiliates pay near the bottom end of the range (which seems sensible
> to me.)
>
> Why would we want to remove an affiliate? Well, an overt removal has never
> happened, but people have expressed a desire to have a process to do that
> in case an affiliate is, for example, regularly breaking community rules,
> breaking the law, harassing someone, etc.  We also accounted for a much
> more common thing, which is people who just become less active in the
> community over time. If someone just stops coming and no one has seen them
> in a year, are they or aren't they still affiliates? This happened a lot
> before we came up with our most recent policy, and it was confusing and
> distressing. This is one of the reasons we require sponsors and the
> sponsors must "re-up" once a year, so that only *active *affiliates
> remain in the group.
>
> regarding this comment "one concern many cohousing communities have is
> about renters or re-sale people moving in for the house but not the
> cohousing aspects". We too were very concerned about this before we moved
> in, and tried to come up with policies to prevent this while still honoring
> letter and spirit of anti-discrimination housing laws, but it turned out
> that our worries were completely off-base. In the real world, 1) people
> move here *because* they want cohousing, and 2) even people who want
> cohousing often have periods where they withdraw from active participation
> in the community for personal reasons...including founders and original
> buyers. (Example: my partner died and while I worked through my grief, for
> a couple of years I was basically non-existent.) Renters or resale owners
> are no more or less likely to be involved than original owners...AND it
> turns out our community is resilient, and having some folks around who
> aren't engaged does not ruin our community.  So it turned out to be a big
> fat non-issue after all our worries.
>
> Mosaic Commons has 34 homes and approx 100 residents in townhouse-style
> buildings in a semi-rural suburb.
>
> Diana
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 9:40 AM CJ Q <homeschoolvideo [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Diana,
>> I am very interested in your different types of memberships. So anyone who
>> lives there is part of the HOA like any condo and I assume pay those dues.
>> So, if they choose to be a member of the cohousing community (meals,
>> common
>> house furnishing, etc like you mentioned) is there another dues for those
>> costs?
>> Those who don't want to be a part of the cohousing then just live there? I
>> assume they still get to know and talk to their neighbors?
>> It's very interesting all that you've been saying. How many households are
>> there on the property? And is the other cohousing at the same property or
>> near by?
>> I think you also mentioned, or someone did, ways to ask a member to leave.
>> Why would anyone want to do that? If they are violating cohousing
>> agreements or something? I"m curious.  I know one concern many cohousing
>> communities have is about renters or re-sale people moving in for the
>> house
>> but not the cohousing aspects so I wonder how that works with your
>> different tiers.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Carol
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