| Re: Background check Screening of Prospective Members | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Abe Ross (cohoyote gmail.com)
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| Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 08:22:04 -0800 (PST) | |
We considered this at one point but decided that it wasn't really worth
much. For one thing, the only people with records are the ones who have
been caught. For another, depending on what you were looking for, you
might need the records from each of the USA states and Canadian
provinces. Another consideration is what the conviction was for, e.g.,
having a few ounces of marijuana in a state where it is now legal. This
then puts you in the position of having to rate the different crimes for
which people were convicted as to which might or might not be acceptable
in your community.
Abe Ross Treehouse Village Ecohousing Bridgewater, NS CanadaPS. I was initially for doing the checks but after discussions with other community members, I changed my mind.
I'm supposed to respect my elders, but it's getting harder and harder for me to find one now.
On 2/25/2022 11:58 AM, Jim Bronson wrote:
Thanks to others on this listserv for reflecting on their financial screening approach. A similar, currently hot topic for us at River Song is screening for behavior history, so-called background checks. We probably all have encountered the numerous websites that promise to find your person of interest, investigate their interactions with the law and government, and give you a report of their misdeeds, including arrests, convictions, fines, etc. At RSC we wonder if these sites are accurate, and whether it is ethical and appropriate to use them to screen for prospective members. For reference, here is a link to a Seattle Weekly article that suggests 8 sites they have investigated. https://www.seattleweekly.com/marketplace/top-8-background-checks-sites-to-search-criminal-records-social-media-accounts-educational-history-and-more/ There are many more back-ground check sites advertising through Google which will pop up when you enter a name search. I would love to hear from cohousing membership team folks about this topic. Thanks. 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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 10:58 AM Jim Bronson<jimbronsonashland [at] gmail.com> wrote:Thanks to others on this listserv for reflecting on their financial screening approach. A similar, currently hot topic for us at River Song is screening for behavior history, so-called background checks. We probably all have encountered the numerous websites that promise to find your person of interest, investigate their interactions with the law and government, and give you a report of their misdeeds, including arrests, convictions, fines, etc. At RSC we wonder if these sites are accurate, and whether it is ethical and appropriate to use them to screen for prospective members. For reference, here is a link to a Seattle Weekly article that suggests 8 sites they have investigated. https://www.seattleweekly.com/marketplace/top-8-background-checks-sites-to-search-criminal-records-social-media-accounts-educational-history-and-more/ There are many more back-ground check sites advertising through Google which will pop up when you enter a name search. I would love to hear from cohousing membership team folks about this topic. Thanks. Jim Bronson - River Song Cohousing, Eugene, OR _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://L.cohousing.org/info_________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://L.cohousing.org/info
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