Re: Consequences ? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2023 09:03:00 -0700 (PDT) |
How old is your community? Is this shortly after move-in or 20 years after? We had very different problems with clashing standards when we moved in and often people didn’t understand that their standards were clashing. The person who was always adjusting the temperature in the CH to 80 degrees lived in Florida and his family had never had the indoor temps lower. He had no idea that setting the temp at 74 had been intentional. Like Virgil’s example on dog poop — one person’s normal is another person’s major crime. Karen’s points about the balance between having absolute order and damaging relationships are good ones. Understanding why things are happening is important to changing them but changing behavior is easier if the needs of the behavior are understood. In fact, the behavior often changes itself when discussed. We used to have dishes sitting around the dining room and kitchen all the time until someone ran the sanitizer for a meal — usually once a week. But we also discouraged people from handwashing dishes because we wanted them sanitized. And paper plates and glasses were bad for the environment. We switched to regular dishwashers and now there are no dishes sitting around the dining room or kitchen. If someone forgets to put a glass in the dishwasher it is very easy for someone else to do it. A very helpful insight came from a community member who said he never reads rules — never. He just does what other people do, or he thinks they do. So it means someone has to speak up if he is doing something they wish he wouldn’t do. Rather than thinking in terms of punishment, “You cannot do this or we will….” find ways of saying why the behavior is bothering you. For several years after we moved in one person used to remind us regularly, “Okay guys, I didn’t buy my way into a trailer trash community — can we clean it up a bit?” Sometimes she went into detail but normally people understood what she meant — straighten the chairs and pick up the trash. She was Black and the unspoken word here was a “white” trailer trash community. Her Black culture didn’t allow the casual mess that some of our white members enjoyed. But I honestly have to say that we have not had to resort to “fines” or “punishments” for anything. People speak up when something is bothering them. Often they talk to someone else first and if they aren’t comfortable talking to the perpetrator personally, they go to a team or a friend who can speak up without getting angry. There have been statements that we need fines or restrictions — people shouldn’t be able to use the CH for a month after leaving a small meal's worth of dishes in the sink or banned from posting on email after they go off the rails at someone, but it never has happened. As I sit here, I can’t think of one fine or restriction that we have placed on someone for anything in 23 years. Partly because no one wants to be the enforcer. They just want their feelings acknowledged and “something done.” I’m amazed, actually, at how often after a complaint on email (usually) people confess to being the person who left ice cream melting on the back steps of the CH, apologizing, and explaining why it happened. I complain regularly about people expecting that their standards are the right standards and that we have moved into cohousing with a plan to become more perfect people. Who says it is inappropriate for people to show emotion in meetings? Who decided that speaking in hyperbole is confusing? A lot of things have been ironed out and calmed down. We understand more than react, but we still react. To do otherwise would be to suffer in silence and eventually just leave. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
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