Cohousing-L Mailing List: RE: joint venture between co housing and waldorf school

[Sue Pniewski (SPniewski]

I am not sure Cohousing would fit in with the Waldorf theology.  You might
want to research the dogma very thoroughly beofer committing to any joint
venture in which your reputation as a community may be tied to a group such
as that.  The following quotes are from the founder of the waldorf schools--

"You see, when we really study science and history, we must conclude that if
people become increasingly strong, they will also become increasingly
stupid. If the blonds and blue-eyed people die out, the human race will
become increasingly dense if men do not arrive at a form of intelligence
that is independent of blondness. Blond hair actually bestows intelligence.
... It is indeed true that the more the fair individuals die out the more
will the instinctive wisdom of humans vanish." 
[Rudolf Steiner, founder of Waldorf Schools. Health and Illness: Volume I,
p86. (1922) Spring Valley: Anthroposophic Press, 1981] 

"It can certainly not be denied, that today Jewry still appears as a closed
totality, and as such many times has intervened in the development of the
present situation in a way that has been less than positive for Western
cultural ideas. But Jewry as such has long since outlived itself, and has no
justification any more within modern life of the peoples, and that it
nevertheless has preserved itself is a mistake of world history, whose
consequences have been inevitable." 
[Rudolf Steiner, founder of Waldorf Schools. from his review of "Homunculus"
by Hammerling (1888) published in the German Weekly] 

Please see this website for more information-
http://www.waldorfcritics.org/

-------------------------------------
Susan Pniewski, Esq.
General Counsel
Habitat for Humanity of Jacksonville
904.798.2712  x202

        


-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Soberman [mailto:gsoberma [at] frontiernet.net]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:45 PM
To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
Subject: [C-L]_joint venture between co housing and waldorf school



We just had our first co housing meeting a week ago at our waldorf school.
We are looking into partnering with our local waldorf school to buy land for
the school and to have a co housing community on the land.  Their interest
in a co housing community is primarily finanacial at this point i.e. we
would help fund the purchase of the land.  I am curious if there are any
similar communities out there or in the process of being formed and if so
how the relatiionship was formed/is forming.  Thanks

Glenn Soberman
New Paltz, N.Y.
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> From: Matt Kramer <mkramer [at] mattkramer.com>
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> Subject: [C-L]_Seeking guidelines for managing the Common House
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> Phase I move in for Cotati is about three weeks away. We have just formed
> the Common House Management Committee and we're wondering if anyone has
any
> policy templates or guidelines for managing the space including issues
such
> as cleaning, balanced use of the common areas, special event management
and
> other issues that have surfaced over time, etc.
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> Thank you
> Matt Kramer
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> From: Casey Morrigan <cjmorr [at] pacbell.net>
> To: "'cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org'" <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: RE: [C-L]_Seeking guidelines for managing the Common House
> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 06:35:10 -0700
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> Matt, we have an agreement we use with people who are going to use the
> common house for events. Would you like a copy from your neighbors up the
> road?
>
> Congratulations on the move-in. It's great to have another cohousing in
> Sonoma County.
>
> Casey Morrigan
> Two Acre Wood
> Sebastopol
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Kramer [mailto:mkramer [at] mattkramer.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 2:10 PM
> > To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> > Subject: [C-L]_Seeking guidelines for managing the Common House
> >
> >
> >
> > Phase I move in for Cotati is about three weeks away. We have
> > just formed
> > the Common House Management Committee and we're wondering if
> > anyone has any
> > policy templates or guidelines for managing the space
> > including issues such
> > as cleaning, balanced use of the common areas, special event
> > management and
> > other issues that have surfaced over time, etc.
> >
> > Thank you
> > Matt Kramer
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 10:55:10 -0400
> From: Dahako [at] aol.com
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_Re: refining concerns in a timely way
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
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> Hi -
>
> Here at Eastern Village, we're going to have 55 households, so I've been
thinking about this a lot.
>
> My inclination in dealing with a big group is to let things take the time
they take.  Plan ahead and announce the plan (create expectations for how
long things will take). Break decisions and processes in manageable
bits/stages.  Declare progress or success as each bit is done and have a
party at the end.
>
> Most of the time, I think resistance to coming to a decision means some
people are still feeling unconnected - to the group and to a possible
resolution point.  Just needs more time sometimes.
>
> Jessie Handforth Kome
> Eastern Village Cohousing
> Silver Spring, Maryland
> "Where patience is a virtue, but not really one of mine."
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 12:00:20 -0400
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_Re: refining concerns in a timely way
> From: Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.us>
> To: "cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org" <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
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> On 8/4/03 10:55 AM, "Dahako [at] aol.com" <Dahako [at] aol.com> wrote:
>
> > My inclination in dealing with a big group is to let things take the
time=
>  they
> > take.  Plan ahead and announce the plan (create expectations for how
long
> > things will take). Break decisions and processes in manageable
bits/stage=
> s.
> > Declare progress or success as each bit is done and have a party at the
e=
> nd.
>
> After move-in, there will a ton of things that need to be decided or done
> one way or the other. When you are actually living in a space, seemingly
> little things can become very irritating and someone needs to make a
> decision and do something. It helps a lot if the group can agree that the
> board or whomever will make a lot of decisions that will be discussed and
> remade later, if necessary, when there is time.
>
> We lean so far over for consensus we end up in a quagmire. When you need
> toilet paper in the bathrooms, you can't wait for a meeting to decide
whose
> job it is to put it there because otherwise the person whose unit is
closes=
> t
> ends up supplying because it is midnight and someone is knocking on their
> door (you can tell whose unit is right across from our guest rooms!).
>
> > Most of the time, I think resistance to coming to a decision means some
p=
> eople
> > are still feeling unconnected - to the group and to a possible
resolution
> > point.  Just needs more time sometimes.
>
> The seeming resistance can also just be general concern over making any
> decision at all.
>
> The most helpful thing for us was to realize that no decision is
"forever".
> We often needed to just try things to get some experience. After people
hav=
> e
> experience, their concerns are much clearer and take far less time to
> clarify.
>
> I was very pleased in a meeting yesterday to hear a couple of people
arguin=
> g
> for actions I had advocated three years ago that these same people had
> resisted very strongly. And I have changed my views on some major things
> because the way I think things "should" work ideologically, just don=B9t
work
> in practice. The ideas we would like to govern the world probably take
> generations to implement, not years.
>
> Sharon
> --=20
> Sharon Villines
> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
> http://www.takomavillage.org
>
>
>
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