Re: Choosing Colors | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Robert Heinich (robert_heinichjuno.com) | |
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT) |
>>> Most groups, of course are choosing Hardiplank or similar, I glad to report that our houses have Hardiplank sidings and after five years do NOT need repainting. The regular wood trim does need/have been repainting/repained on some houses. -Robert Heinich Eno Commons Cohousing Neighborhood Durham, NC > > which can be done in colors. On Mon, 3 May 2004 11:30:54 -0700 Chris ScottHanson <chris [at] cohousingresources.com> writes: > I still say... have your architect select the colors. Tell them > they > must consider long term maintenance. Architects are and should be > > responsible for quality and long term maintenance considerations in > all > materials selection, including coatings. Ask your architect to > provide > a repainting schedule. Repainting every five years is normal, by > the > way, unless you choose to pay for color impregnated siding. > Suddenly > vinyl makes more sense. Is anyone making recycled contact vinyl out > > there? Most groups, of course are choosing Hardiplank or similar, > > which can be done in colors. > > We had an interesting thing happen in Boston when the paint was > specified by the architects (who did a very good job). Much to my > > surprise, having dealt with this many times and seen lots of grey > color > schemes, when I objected to the 5 color (yes FIVE color) paint > scheme, > the contractor said it would not save us any money to go to four or > > three colors. > > Haven't tried this before, but why not consider a long term painting > > contract up front, negotiated by your general contractor? Establish > > the cost down the road in a contract set up at the time of initial > > construction. Shoot for a 20 year contract, and only work with a > painting contractor that has been in business for at least 20 > years. > > Chris > > On May 3, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Rob Sandelin wrote: > > > There is seldom a final right answer that is best for the > community in > > regards to color. It is a preference issue, especially in dealing > with > > shades and tones vs. Green or Red. Therefore, not surprisingly, > most > > consensus processes work poorly. I have done this decision for a > few > > places, and NOT ever used consensus, because as I carefully > explain to > > the clients, consensus is not the right tool for these kinds of > > things. In one case that shocked them so much they fired me, then > > > spent months in arguments and flailing. Maybe YOUR group can use > > > consensus to arrive at these kinds of decisions. My hats off to > you if > > you can. Many groups seem to experience lots of trouble, and in > the > > end, people just give up out of frustration or being tired or time > > > constraints push people into shutting up. > > > > A process that I have done which works is called a scaled vote. > > > > 1. Make a palette of choices into a poster which as lots of room > on > > one side. > > 2. Give everyone a 1, 2 and third choice sticker > > 3. Let people put their stickers on their 1, 2, and 3 choices. > > If 3/4ths of the 1 or 2 stickers chooses one option, you are > done. if > > not: > > > > 4. Remove all the low scoring choices and do a run off of the top > > > three. > > > > 5. If needed, do a runoff of the top 2. In theory, you could have > no > > winner. In practise I have not seen this happen. > > > > There are lots of ways to spin this, like count the total value of > all > > the votes, assigning numeric values to the stickers, or to only > have > > one choice in the second round. > > > > I recall one process where one of the participants did not get her > > > way, had a pissy fit, and loudly denounced me, my process, and the > > > whole community. Then she left the group. A week later I got > flowers > > and a card signed by the whole group thanking me for getting this > > > person out of their community. > > > > If people get overly freaked out about shades of color (light > brown > > vs. medium brown) it might not actually be about the decision, its > > > about control. Look for patterns in use of red cards by > individuals > > and do the interventions if needed. If you don't know how to do > an > > intervention, I have resources on the webt you are welcome to. > > > > Rob Sandelin > > Sharingwood Community > > Snohomish, WA > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included > with > > MSN Premium! > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlb&pgmarket=en-us/go/ > > onm00200439ave/direct/01/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info > at: > > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L > > > >
- Re: Choosing Colors, (continued)
- Re: Choosing Colors mark harfenist, May 3 2004
- Re: Choosing Colors Elizabeth Stevenson, May 4 2004
- Painting Saoirse, May 3 2004
- Re: Choosing Colors Eris Weaver, May 3 2004
- Re: Choosing Colors Robert Heinich, May 3 2004
- Re: Choosing Colors DGSCCoho, May 3 2004
- RE: Choosing Colors Douglas G. Larson, May 4 2004
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Re: Choosing Colors psp, May 5 2004
- Re: Re: Choosing Colors Chris ScottHanson, May 9 2004
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