Re: marketing Aria Cohousing in Denver to families | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Mabel Liang (mabeltwomeeps.com) | |
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 00:14:38 -0700 (PDT) |
Hi Phil (who lives downstairs from us!), I don't pretend to understand, but we had wanted our 3+ bedroom apartment to be all on one level, and the architect told us he couldn't do it within the constraints of the footprint (which was already pre-ordained for him by the previous plans filed with the city). I think part of it has to do with the fact that with our commitment to visitability (see http://www.visitability.org/), we were putting either an elevator or a lift in both of our apartment buildings. By having the second floor of apartments be reachable only within the apartments, it means that the 4-story building only needed an elevator to go to the 3rd floor, and the 3-story building only needed a lift to go between the 1st and 2nd floors. Thus saving money. -- Mabel :-) mabel [at] twomeeps.com Mabel Liang Software Engineer turned Gardener Cornerstone Village Cohousing Cambridge, MA On 2016-10-01 06:52, R Philip Dowds wrote: > Actually, there is a lot of construction technology available for effective > noise mitigation. For instance, in wood frame construction, there is the > option of including a subfloor of 1" or 1 1/2" thick "Gyp Crete" or > "cementitious underlayment". Combine this with a ceiling hung on resilient > clips (not nailed direct to the floor structure), and acoustic isolation > between units gets pretty good. "Extra" cost is the main reason why this > very routine technology gets squeezed out of the project construction budget. > > The building I live in is an elevatored, four story wood frame construction > with the usual common egress stairs. But the unit layouts feature a number > of un-flats: larger apartments divided into two stories with an internal > stair. Frankly, I've never much understood this approach: The additional > unit stairs consume space and add cost, and make much of the apartment > inaccessible to the mobility-impaired. In my opinion, the identical floor > areas would be more useful if kept in the flat-over-flat format. With proper > sound isolation, of course. Eliminating the internal stairs could go a long > way to paying for the Gyp Crete. > > Thanks, > Philip Dowds > Cornerstone Village Cohousing > Cambridge, MA > >> On Sep 29, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Beverly Jones Redekop <beverly.jones.redekop >> [at] gmail.com> wrote: >> >> 3. AVOID STACKED FLATS AT ALL COSTS! Our ugliest conflicts have been the >> result of larger units (1440 s.f. with three bedrooms) stacked above >> smaller units (1000 s.f. two bedrooms). Families live above empty-nesters, >> and our side-to-side soundproofing works great, but the above & below >> doesn't work much at all. Noise leads to short tempers and nasty >> comments. It would have been so much better to have these units side by >> side as stacked personal homes (the 1000 s.f. as 500 down and 500 up; the >> 1440 as 720 down and 720 up). If you must have a few 1000 s.f. units all >> on one level for accessibility, put a unit that is severely skewed towards >> child-free households above, such as a tiny studio or one bedroom...or >> common house storage or something. You will be tempted to stack units to >> save money, but it is the worst possible disaster you could ever inflict >> upon yourselves....and aren't personal interior staircases cheaper than >> public exterior staircases anyhow? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/
- Re: marketing Aria Cohousing in Denver to families, (continued)
- Re: marketing Aria Cohousing in Denver to families R Philip Dowds, October 2 2016
- Soundproofing [was marketing Aria Cohousing in Denver to families Sharon Villines, October 2 2016
- Re: marketing Aria Cohousing in Denver to families Sharon Villines, October 1 2016
- Re: marketing Aria Cohousing in Denver to families Mabel Liang and Bob Leigh, October 1 2016
- Re: marketing Aria Cohousing in Denver to families Mabel Liang, October 2 2016
- Re: marketing Aria Cohousing in Denver to families R Philip Dowds, October 2 2016
- Re: marketing Aria Cohousing in Denver to families S. Kashdan, October 1 2016
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