Re: Police policies
From: Mac Thomson (macthomsonme.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 12:27:49 -0700 (PDT)
<off topic — community skits>

On Saturday night of our annual retreat, we (Heartwood Cohousing) holds a gong 
show consisting of all manner of talent and not so much talent — music, skits, 
poetry, whatever. One of the common skit themes is us poking fun at ourselves. 
Most people take it very well when they see themselves gently made fun of up on 
stage. I find the whole event to be pretty therepuetic.

-- 
Mac Thomson

Heartwood Cohousing
Southwest Colorado
http://www.heartwoodcohousing.com


"The essential psychological requirement of a free society is the willingness 
on the part of the individual to accept responsibility for his life."
        - Edith Packer
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> On Jun 6, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Maggie McGovern via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] 
> cohousing.org> wrote:
> 
> Ohhhh this is a thing! I would love to see how you all are doing this. Beyond 
> writing I’m not sure what to do though some people in my coho want to act in 
> them. Are you both solo acts? Maybe we need a zoom call on people interested 
> in coho comedy’s! 
> 
> :) Maggie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Elizabeth Magill <pastorlizm [at] gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have done several stand up routines about our development phase here
>> for Mosaic Commons. We are a funny bunch. Liz Magill
>> 
>> berlin, MA.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 3:07 PM Chris Hansen <itschrishansen [at] gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maggie- it's good to virtually meet another therapeutic skit writer!
>>> I have a fantasy that I will develop a CoHousing-themed comedy routine and 
>>> travel the country exchanging nights' accommodation for a night's 
>>> entertainment.
>>> I couldn't do this routine at my home CoHousing, because some people would 
>>> recognize themselves and be offended, but they are all situations I'm 
>>> confident are instantly recognizable to most intentional communities!
>>> It would be great to exchange skits, and perhaps plan to perform at a 
>>> CoHousing conference... :)
>>> Cheers
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 at 07:51, Maggie McGovern via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l 
>>>> [at] cohousing.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Liz and Sharron for sharing. The confusion around when to use 
>>>> authority seems to be a theme. I appreciate all the examples! Wow! I’ve 
>>>> been writing funny cohousing skits (really as therapy haha) and some of 
>>>> these stories are inspiring.
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps no one has written guidelines about using police (or other 
>>>> authorities). Very interesting.
>>>> 
>>>> I would love to see who is on board with what agreements here. I like that 
>>>> idea Liz. It’s not really an agreement to me if people aren’t on board. 
>>>> Coming in new I assumed people liked and used the agreements but that’s 
>>>> not always the case. I’d love transparency around that like, “many of us 
>>>> agree to this...” or wording that reflects what’s true.
>>>> 
>>>> Well thanks for the replies!
>>>> Maggie
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 6:19 AM, Elizabeth Magill <pastorlizm [at] gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> We don't have policies on that, but we have a slightly similar
>>>>> situation. (We are two coho communities on one property.)
>>>>> In the northern community a dog bit a young person who lives in the
>>>>> southern community. The bitten family called animal control.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The northern community (with the dog) reacted by saying "you must talk
>>>>> to the family before calling".
>>>>> Our community (with the bitten person) reacted by saying "you can call
>>>>> if it feels appropriate".
>>>>> 
>>>>> I work with communities on conflict. Often there is conflict that
>>>>> "that other person isn't following our policies."
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it would help when developing policies to ask how you would
>>>>> enforce it once it is in place. Also ask whether you really have
>>>>> agreement from all people to follow it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So taking a policy about calling police (or animal control, or any
>>>>> outside the community resource)--would the person who has done that
>>>>> follow such a policy? And if they did not, then what would the
>>>>> community do about the fact that they didn't follow it? In my
>>>>> experience, and in this case even in my dreaming of best case
>>>>> scenarios, I can't imagine what would happen if someone didn't follow
>>>>> the policy. What would be a logical consequence? Who would make that
>>>>> consequence happen?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only next step that I can imagine is to talk to the person about
>>>>> them calling the police. Do you have someone from the community who
>>>>> would come with you as you try to do that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It sounds like a very frustrating situation and I'm sorry there isn't
>>>>> a way to change other people's behaviors. I wish there was.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Liz
>>>>> Mosaic Commons in Berlin, MA.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:34 AM Maggie McGovern via Cohousing-L
>>>>>> <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi people. I’ve never posted to here so I’m not sure if I’m doing this 
>>>>>> right. I’ll find out!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m curious if any of you have policies/guidelines/agreements/rules 
>>>>>> around people calling the police?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve had a neighbor call the police on me for something that was not 
>>>>>> breaking any agreements and wasn’t brought to my attention by him (we do 
>>>>>> have agreements to go to each other with complaints but he has chosen 
>>>>>> not to do that). We don’t have any agreements around calling the police 
>>>>>> and for my and other’s safety and peace of mind I would like that to 
>>>>>> exist. I was thinking of having a discussion in our coho with those 
>>>>>> interested but I thought I’d first see if other Coho’s have written 
>>>>>> agreements that I can bring as options. When I think of writing 
>>>>>> something it is very hard for me to clearly, concretely describe how it 
>>>>>> would look to use police when needed and not just as a threat.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also know there are many views on this from people trusting the police 
>>>>>> as a strategy for protection and conflict resolution to those who see 
>>>>>> using police as a danger given historical and current violence and 
>>>>>> abuses of power and then everything in between. Anyone tackled this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Maggie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> -Liz
>>>>> (The Rev. Dr.) Elizabeth Mae Magill
>>>>> Pastor, Ashburnham Community Church
>>>>> Minister to the Affiliates, Ecclesia Ministries
>>>>> www.elizabethmaemagill.com
>>>>> 508-450-0431
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>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> -Liz
>> (The Rev. Dr.) Elizabeth Mae Magill
>> Pastor, Ashburnham Community Church
>> Minister to the Affiliates, Ecclesia Ministries
>> www.elizabethmaemagill.com
>> 508-450-0431
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