Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: We are soon making the decision to bring or not bring gas to the community

[Joel Bartlett (altairecovillage]

Jim,

Could you advise us as to the brand and model number of the induction stove
you plan on using?  We want a commercial kitchen; larger scale than
residential.

Thanks, Joel Bartlett
Project Manager for the Members
Altair EcoVillage
www.altairecovillage.org

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 5:15 AM Jim Snyder-Grant <jim.snyder.grant [at] 
gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, avoiding gas is a great win for health and the environment.
> Our commonhouse has two induction stoves (with convection ovens). It does
> everything we need for cooking. Heat is fast and controlled: boiling big
> pots of water is especially great, and keeping things warm.
>
> -Jim, New View Cohousing, Acton MA.
> (I don't usually monitor this list, so contact me directly with follow-ups)
>
> Jim Snyder-Grant
> (he / him / his) why?
> <
> https://assets2.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/TalkingAboutPronouns_onesheet_FINAL.pdf
> >
> 18 Half Moon Hill
> Acton MA 01720
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:21 AM Joanie Connors <jvcphd [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Why experts are sounding the alarm about the hidden dangers of gas stoves
> > By Jonathan Mingle <https://qz.com/author/jonathan-mingle/>
> > December 4, 2020
> >
> >
> https://qz.com/1941254/experts-are-sounding-the-alarm-about-the-dangers-of-gas-stoves/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
> >
> > "...While many Americans might think illness linked to indoor cooking and
> > heating is a problem confined to smoke-filled kitchens in the developing
> > world
> > <
> >
> https://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/proof/2017/07/guatemala-cook-stoves/
> > >,
> > the natural gas-burning stoves and furnaces found in millions of US
> > kitchens and basements can produce a range of health-damaging pollutants,
> > including particulate matter (PM), nitrogen dioxide (NO2), carbon
> monoxide
> > (CO), and formaldehyde. Over the past four decades, researchers have
> > amassed a large body of scientific evidence linking the use of gas
> > appliances, especially for cooking, with a higher risk of a range of
> > respiratory problems and illnesses.
> >
> > Since the publication of two new reports on the subject from the
> nonprofit
> > research group the Rocky Mountain Institute
> > <https://rmi.org/insight/gas-stoves-pollution-health/> (RMI) and the
> UCLA
> > Fielding School of Public Health
> > <
> >
> https://coeh.ph.ucla.edu/effects-residential-gas-appliances-indoor-and-outdoor-air-quality-and-public-health-california
> > >,
> > this past spring, the existence of these gas-fired health hazards has
> > garnered increasing
> > <
> >
> https://grist.org/energy/study-gas-powered-appliances-may-be-hazardous-for-your-health/
> > >
> > media
> > <
> >
> https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/5/7/21247602/gas-stove-cooking-indoor-air-pollution-health-risks
> > >
> > scrutiny
> > <
> >
> https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/10/gas-stoves-are-bad-you-and-environment/616700/
> > >.
> > But less discussed has been how the Covid-19 pandemic has compounded the
> > risks of this pollution, especially for low-income and vulnerable
> > populations, and how key regulatory agencies have lagged decades behind
> the
> > science in acting to protect them.
> >
> > “There’s no question this has been a neglected issue,” said Jones, who
> has
> > drawn on lessons from his long career in public health epidemiology and
> > disease prevention in sounding the alarm throughout Massachusetts and
> with
> > former CDC colleagues over the past few years. The first step, he said,
> is
> > “letting people know what the risks are—particularly when they can be
> > substantial, life-threatening risks that can kill kids.”
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:32 PM Henning Mortensen <hmortensen [at] 
> > gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for the book report Sharon. I have ordered it from amazon and
> > > look forward to reading it. I am a longtime follower of carfree.com
> (no
> > > longer exists) and the carfree movement. Especially the ideas for car
> > free
> > > cities such as that developed by Joel Crawford.
> > > Henning Mortensen
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 3:18 PM Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L <
> > > cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > On Nov 30, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Jenny Guy <jenstermeister [at] gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Here's something else I wonder about: our buildings have been here
> > for
> > > 80
> > > > > years without air conditioning. [snip] When I was a kid, it was
> > > > unthinkable that anyone
> > > > > would have air conditioning in San Francisco, but now it's full
> > > >
> > > > Pollution. Air pollution. Noise pollution. Not just from exhausts,
> from
> > > > all the activity that keeps the “cement dust” moving. Changes in
> > planting
> > > > for the convenience of cleaners but produce higher pollution.
> > > >
> > > > Stuff like that.
> > > >
> > > > I think it also has to do with higher stress levels. Or ambition. We
> > put
> > > > in AC so we can work harder and faster even when it is 100 degrees
> out
> > > > there. We don’t have to get up early to avoid the heat. We don’t take
> > > > siestas.
> > > >
> > > > One of the book reports I haven’t written is on “Carjacked: The
> Culture
> > > of
> > > > the Automobile and Its Effect on Our Lives,” It is cowritten by a
> > > professor
> > > > of Anthropology and International Studies at Brown University and her
> > > > analysis is from a totally different direction than we usually hear.
> > She
> > > > examines how expectations of children have been changed. It isn’t
> just
> > > that
> > > > cars made more activities available but we expect kids to "take
> > > advantage"
> > > > of all those activities. I used to sit in a big elm tree and read
> books
> > > for
> > > > hours. How many parents worry about children who don’t have any
> > > > “activities" this week?
> > > >
> > > > Carjacked shows how our lives have changed without our being aware of
> > it
> > > > once we have a car.
> > > >
> > > > Sharon
> > > > ———
> > > > Sharon Villines
> > > > http://affordablecohousing.com
> > > > affordablecohousing [at] groups.io
> > > >
> > > >
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