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From: BILL ZAHAVI, PERF. EXPERTISE CENTER (DTN: 227-3182) (zahavi |
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| Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 14:40 CST | |
My wife and I are currently involved with a co-housing group
which is in the process of making an offer for a piece of
property. We started to get involved with the group only
recently and feel that things are moving at a fairly quick pace
relative to what we were told originally and relative to what I
generally hear on the network.
The rapid pace requires that financial commitments are also made
equally fast. As a result, many questions begin to rise. I am
going to try to use this forum as a way to try to list my
questions and concerns with the hope that they match those of
others who are considering co-housing as an alternative
lifestyle. I would very much encourage conversation on these
issues either publicly over the listserver or privately via
E-mail.
The obvious first attraction to co-housing was (and still is)
the social aspect of the lifestyle. We were attracted to the
concept of living in a small community where one knew everyone
else, interacted with them socially and cooperated jointly on
common facilities and activities. A shared set of values was
assumed to exist and would serve as the common glue for the
group. These values would be 'discovered' during the many
planning meetings and would also serve as a deterrent to those
who did not hold these same values.
So, while my social self is naturally drawn toward the
co-housing model my survivor/business self has many questions.
Having digested the information we've been exposed to up till now
I realized that in the final analysis my wife and I are
considering investing in a real-estate venture. This particular
venture is one where ALL decisions are made by the whole group
(unlike other ventures where a completed plan is presented and
one makes a decision based on their opinion of the plan).
A little background. My wife and I are in our late 40's. We
have one grown daughter who, while we hope will visit often,
will most likely not be living with us in the co-housing
community. A big chunk of our estate is our house and we will
be selling it in order to buy a unit in the co-housing
community. It is natural for us to want to preserve the value
of this investment, thus all the questions.
As the move towards the purchase of land proceeds, a general
business-plan/development-plan is presented by the professional
consultants which begins to translate overall costs into
individual unit prices and therefore the individual investment
amounts. My general concerns are as follows:
- The plan as presented, does not yet have concrete unit
designs since the group has not had enough time (and maybe not
yet enough members) to come up with a design. This leaves unit
construction as a 'variable' item.
- Land costs, common house costs, land improvements, legal,
administrative and management costs are all estimated by the
professional consultants and therefore, from my perspective,
(the buyer?) all look like fixed costs.
- Estimated unit prices are then based on 'whatever it will
cost' to meet the budgets of the members. This implies that we
begin to design based on whatever money is left from the
potential 'revenues' (unit-price x number-of-units-built) after
we deduct the fixed costs.
- The preservation of capital investment, I believe, falls into
the category of a 'value'. If the group believes that this is
important then steps will be taken all along the way to insure
that this value is maintained. Doing this includes:
- Design consistent with the town/region/area.
- Price consistent with other like units in the area.
- Bylaws of the group that insure that resale of
units is relatively easy with capital gain/loss
consistent with the economic conditions of the
region.
Interestingly enough, I believe that we would very much want to
associate with a group of people who agree with the above issues
as being important. I also believe that we would most likely
not invest until the community design was much further along and
we felt that we were 'buying' something that was viewed valuable
by outsiders as well as group members.
Having said all that one would ask; so what's the question? Well,
I guess I am opening up a thread that addresses the thought
of bringing co-housing concepts into the mainstream. I would
love to find out if we are relatively unique in thinking this
way (in which case maybe we don't belong), or are there other
people out there contemplating similar issues?
Bill Zahavi
(E-mail: zahavi [at] tpsys.enet.dec.com)
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co-housing and real-estate investments BILL ZAHAVI, PERF. EXPERTISE CENTER (DTN: 227-3182), February 10 1995
- Re: co-housing and real-estate investments Jim Snyder-Grant, February 10 1995
- RE: co-housing and real-estate investments Rob Sandelin, February 13 1995
- RE: co-housing and real-estate investments Dan Everett, February 13 1995
- RE: co-housing and real-estate investments John Eaton, February 13 1995
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