Re: Cohousing Inclusiveness, selecting your neighbors | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (robsan![]() |
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:50:39 PDT |
Bill Dean wrote. > I understand that if someone in a cohousing place moves out, the others have no >say asto who buys the house and moves in to replace them. The only admissions >group would be mortgage lenders, and they are not cohousing residents. >Anyone out there who can tell me if my impression is accurate, otherwise, >or does it vary for different existing groups? This is one of the big dividing lines between condominium ownership and a cooperative ownership. Coops are often set up so that some group within the coop: the board, an admissions committee, or even the whole group, can approve (or dissaprove) sale of a unit. Since the units are owned essentially by the group, not individuals, the group can choose who they live with. Many coops exist for this particular reason - to exclude those who they don't want to live with. In a condominium, ownership of units is private, and therefore subject to the limitations that the bank puts upon it. Right of first refusal is often put into the CC&R's of a condo and is usually meaningless as the cost of the unit is such that the organization, nor any of its members could ever afford to exercise it. I remember reading once about a group who wanted to have the membership selection ability of a coop and the bank acceptance of a condo and so created both a coop and a condo and made membership in the coop a prerequisite to purchase of a condo unit. They then were using the coop to "screen" members. I don't remember who the group was, I think the article was in a past issue of the cohousing journal which is not handy to me now to look up. I also am not sure if this group successfully negotiated mortgages with a bank with this setup, which is the key determining factor of any legal setup. In my limited experience, I have found banks tend to be wary of schemes which make it hard for them to foreclose and sell a property and cohousing groups having complicated legal schemes may have a hard time getting bank funding. We were told that FNMA would not favorably review a right of first refusal clause in our declarations, and since it was largely meaningless anyway, we had our lawyer pull that out of our CC&R's. Getting FNMA approval was very helpful for us, we have 7 banks holding mortgages, and this diversity is a good thing as it tells other banks that this project is a reasonable investment. Sharingwood is probably one of the few cohousing groups where members, and the organization and not banks, actually own the project. Our greenbelt is fully owned by the organization and over a third of the homes are resident owned. Our legal structure is such that the banks have no ownership over the common elements and we are corporate debt free to banks, having self funding all development to date. Banks own 7 of 12 homes at Sharingwood and own big pieces of only 3 homes. Rob Sandelin Sharingwood (Where the trees are greener, the skies bluer, and the children are all above average ;-)
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Re: Cohousing Inclusiveness, selecting your neighbors Rob Sandelin, August 8 1995
- Re: Cohousing Inclusiveness, selecting your neighbors Denise Meier and/or Michael Jacob, August 9 1995
- RE: Cohousing Inclusiveness, selecting your neighbors Rob Sandelin (Exchange), August 10 1995
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