Re: RE: cats: the real extreme position
From: Elizabeth Stevenson (tamgoddesshome.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:39:01 -0600 (MDT)
Whoops! I though I was writing a personal reply. Probably stuck my foot in
it again with the srack about sending cats to the pound. Oh, well. Sorry
everyone.

Liz

> From: Elizabeth Stevenson <tamgoddess [at] home.com>
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:40:26 -0700
> To: <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_RE: cats: the real extreme position
> 
> See my new post.
> 
> Just for philosophical yucks, consider this question. Dogs are social
> animals and require a hierarchical system in order to feel comfortable. Does
> treating them as inferior make them slaves to humans, or are we simply
> making life easier for all involved when they know their "place"? I
> personally have never owned a dog, mostly because they smell bad, but also
> because I hate the whole master/dog relationship. You have to constanly be
> in charge, and I've seen all too many people who don't do that with badly
> behaved dogs.
> 
> Frankly, if I didn't care about my relationship with my friend, I'd have
> trapped her animals and taken them to the pound years ago. There's nothing
> like living in a city to take the shine off your love of domestic animals.
> I'd have felt sad(and probably asked the cats' forgiveness), but she would
> have stopped feeding outdoors, and lots of problems would have been solved.
> 
> Liz
> 
>> From: "Robert Heinich" <rheinich [at] us.ibm.com>
>> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
>> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:22:27 -0400
>> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
>> Subject: Re: [C-L]_RE: cats: the real extreme position
>> 
>> Well companionship may be one reason.
>> 
>> The folks at PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) would agree
>> with you that animals are not ours to own.  However, many of them have
>> companion nonhuman animals who share their lives.
>> 
>> My cats, Larry&Simon, may not be very practical but they are very good at
>> being cats.   While I enjoy the kids in the neighborhood, I enjoy the quiet
>> solitude I have with the cats.  There have been many times when I did not
>> feel motivated to leave the house but I did so because the cats needed
>> food, litter, ...
>> 
>> So, do animals need to have a job (i.e. guide dogs and other assist
>> animals) in order to exists?
>> 
>> Robert Heinich
>> Eno Common
>> Durham, NC
>> where Larry&Simon watch the goings on in the neighborhood through the
>> screened windows.
>> 
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