RE: Re: Private vs Community Issues (Abuse, Alcoholism, etc.) | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (floriferous![]() |
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:29:01 -0600 (MDT) |
This is a boundary defining place, what is private, what is community. You will blunder into this in a variety of ways, and that's pretty normal from what I have seen in the Communities world. I think an important thing when you do is to do a community debrief about it. How did this feel? Do we want to continue doing things like this, or scale back? What did we learn from this experience? These types of debriefs are good to do regularly when you are a new community, so that you capture the important learning's. Some responses from questions generated towards me. 2. I understand that triangulation is when two people are in conflict and one or both parties tries to draw in support from one or more third parties. Is that right? No, support in conflict is a good thing. Triangulation as I have seen it defined is where person A, who does not like person B, tells person C something negative (and usually slanted or untrue) about person B. Its a game that can be very subtle, and a really effectively done triangulation leaves you feeling negative about a person, but you don't really know how you got that idea. I recommend Strongly discouraging negative remarks about people not present to defend themselves. A simple statement like: Hey, since Bill is not here to defend himself, it doesn't feel right to say negative things about him. Would you agree to go talk to Bill about it? This type of statement will make you very unpopular with gossipy types, but it usually will curb the behavior, at least in your presence. 3. Rob, you talk about healthy talk and unhealthy talk. I'm wondering how this relates to Non-violent Communication which some of us are trying to learn more about. My intuition tells me that Non-violent Communication could be very helpful. But I'm having trouble visualizing what it would actually look like in such a situation. One example of healthy communication would be a process of clearing. For example, I might harbor a certain idea about a person, in the process of clearing I might say something like, "I have this idea about you that I'd like to check out with you to see how real it is." If the person agrees (and they are free not do so, or to do so later, I might say, "When you and Jim worked on and did the repair on the window I felt you excluded me because my ideas for the window were more than you wanted to deal with." They might respond either way, that yes, that is true, or no that's just a fantasy projection on my part, or some partial in-between. In this kind of communication pattern, you can immediately check on things which might be giving you personal issues, and clear them up very directly. It takes agreement on the participants about when and how to do this, and often it is good to utilize a standardized type of format in order to get started. This kind of work is often most successfully started as a subgroup of people rather than the whole group. I have found that in cohousing world, this kind of thing is WAY too touchy-feeling encounter groupish for some folks, but fits others really well. Staring a clearness group can get the ball rolling. There is a good set of articles about this kind of communication clearing in recent issues of Communities magazine. There are people who train groups in this kind of stuff as well as books on it. This is just one kind of communication pattern, NVC might be another, reflective feedback is yet another. Often people who have training as therapists learn several models and can be good local resources. 4. Rob, you also mentioned that communities need to have a list of tools they can use for such situations. Would you specifically name what some of those tools might be? Again, a local trained family therapist can give you lots of ideas. A couple I have used with good success. One would be revealing and bringing out assumptions. You can even start this in a group as a meeting opening game to get people used to the tasks. Start off with something which is widely assumed but not agreed to, such as: I assume that smoking is not allowed in the commonhouse. Then you brainstorm with the group: What actions lead me to assume this? What have I heard that leads me to assume this? What have I said to others that leads them to assume this? Then do a fingers poll about the assumption; everybody that assumes that smoking is not allowed in the commonhouse show one finger, everybody who does not assume this show two. If you practice this a few times with the group before taking on a loaded assumption, in my experience, when you try it on a loaded assumption you will get better results. You can probably come up with other ideas how to examine and take apart assumptions, and this is an important tool for a group to use. Another useful tool is structured communications. This can be used when you want to discuss how people feel about a topic but want to have some control over it and make it useful. A simple structure, is just a fill in the blanks sentence which is done in writing first, then can be communicated aloud. One simple, very general form looks like this: When (describe a behavior) happens, I feel (describe how you feel). When people shout at dinner I feel irritated and bothered. This format can be modified dozens of ways. Marshall Rosenburgs work is sort of a modification of this process. Another tool is simply to break up the larger group into smaller subsets and give them a discussion topic to chew on. Things which will fall flat in a large group discussion can take on great liveliness in a group of three. Rob Sandelin Naturalist, writer, and group advisor Sharingwood www.sharingwood.org --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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