Consensus requirements | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (floriferous![]() |
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:23:02 -0600 (MDT) |
Robert Heinich asked me what the requirements for consensus to work well and safely. Here is my list of 7. Your mileage will probably vary.... 1. People are willing to express what they think and feel without fear of reprisal. 2. Participants agree that the good of the group is the most important factor. 3. There at least one well trained facilitator to guide the group, or the entire group is well trained enough to guide itself. 4. The participants trust, or are willing to trust in the future, the group. 5. The participants can rely on the group to hold their personal interests fairly. 6. The process is evaluated regularly so participants learn and improve their skills 7. The participants are willing to invest the time it takes. Rob Sandelin South Snohomish County at the headwaters of Ricci Creek Sky Valley Environments <http://www.nonprofitpages.com/nica/SVE.htm> Field skills training for student naturalists Floriferous [at] msn.com -----Original Message----- From: cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org [mailto:cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org]On Behalf Of Robert Heinich Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:19 AM To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Subject: RE: [C-L]_Dealing with difficult personalities >>> Consensus process is a like a chain saw, it has several >>> requirements to use it well and safely, and if you ignore those, >>> you can hurt yourself pretty badly, even fatally. Rob, what are those requirements? -Robert Robert Heinich Eno Commons Durham, NC --- "Rob Sandelin" <floriferous [at] msn.com> wrote: It sounds like you a forming group, without actual land or a building project yet. This is the most unstable of times, since all you have is a vision, and its easy to leave since capital investment is low. Consensus does not work in the situation you describe. It can not, nor will not. You have already discovered that people will leave in disgust over the broken process. My advice, is to change your process to majority voting. For Awhile. It sounds like this person is using consensus as a weapon against the group to get her way. So meetings will move much better, and decisions will be made, once she can no longer hijack them. This is the danger of using consensus with people who do not understand or support the value structures underneath it, you get hijacked by a powerful personality who finds that they can use the process to get their way, or to get attention. You can use a cooperative process to discuss proposals, modify them, etc. But in the end, do a 2/3rds majority vote on the outcome. My advice is to facilitate this with a firm hand, move through 4-5 decisions this way. It does not have to be a permanent change. I have seen this exact problem in more than two dozen groups, and moving to a voting situation has always fixed it. Then they often move back to a consensus process after a while, usually with some different understandings and ground rules in place. The most typical outcome is that the person(s) without humility get some and realize that they are only one minority voice, then they either change or leave. Once they figure out that they have to persuade people in other ways, or they simply get outvoted, is very educational for them and the group. Consensus process is a like a chain saw, it has several requirements to use it well and safely, and if you ignore those, you can hurt yourself pretty badly, even fatally. Rob Sandelin South Snohomish County at the headwaters of Ricci Creek Sky Valley Environments <http://www.nonprofitpages.com/nica/SVE.htm> Field skills training for student naturalists Floriferous [at] msn.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.332 / Virus Database: 186 - Release Date: 3/6/02 _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.332 / Virus Database: 186 - Release Date: 3/6/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.332 / Virus Database: 186 - Release Date: 3/6/02 _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L
- RE: Dealing with difficult personalities, (continued)
- RE: Dealing with difficult personalities Racheli Gai, April 21 2003
- RE: Dealing with difficult personalities Casey Morrigan, April 21 2003
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RE: Dealing with difficult personalities Robert Heinich, April 21 2003
- Re: Dealing with difficult personalities Juva DuBoise, April 22 2003
- Consensus requirements Rob Sandelin, April 22 2003
- Re: Consensus requirements & Dealing with Difficult Peraonalities Sharon Villines, April 22 2003
- Individual vs. the group in consensus process Rob Sandelin, April 23 2003
- Re: Individual vs. the group in consensus process Sharon Villines, April 23 2003
- Re: Individual vs. the group in consensus process Jeanne Goodman, April 23 2003
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