RE: Dealing with difficult personalities | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Racheli Gai (racheli![]() |
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:32:02 -0600 (MDT) |
IMO, having a back-up voting procedure is good enough. If a group switches completely to voting, it might find it difficult to go back to consensus later. Also, a "consensus" process where a person can block wherever they don't get their way isn't really consensus. - So, one of the things to look at is how to tighten the process, in order to make blocking more difficult (and more appropriate). R. >It sounds like you a forming group, without actual land or a building >project yet. This is the most unstable of times, since all you have is a >vision, and its easy to leave since capital investment is low. >Consensus does not work in the situation you describe. It can not, nor >will not. You have already discovered that people will leave in disgust >over the broken process. >My advice, is to change your process to majority voting. For Awhile. It >sounds like this person is using consensus as a weapon against the group >to get her way. So meetings will move much better, and decisions will be >made, once she can no longer hijack them. This is the danger of using >consensus with people who do not understand or support the value >structures underneath it, you get hijacked by a powerful personality who >finds that they can use the process to get their way, or to get >attention. You can use a cooperative process to discuss proposals, modify >them, etc. But in the end, do a 2/3rds majority vote on the outcome. My >advice is to facilitate this with a firm hand, move through 4-5 decisions >this way. It does not have to be a permanent change. >I have seen this exact problem in more than two dozen groups, and moving >to a voting situation has always fixed it. Then they often move back to a >consensus process after a while, usually with some different >understandings and ground rules in place. The most typical outcome is >that the person(s) without humility get some and realize that they are >only one minority voice, then they either change or leave. Once they >figure out that they have to persuade people in other ways, or they >simply get outvoted, is very educational for them and the group. >Consensus process is a like a chain saw, it has several requirements to >use it well and safely, and if you ignore those, you can hurt yourself >pretty badly, even fatally. >Rob Sandelin >South Snohomish County at the headwaters of Ricci Creek >Sky Valley Environments <http://www.nonprofitpages.com/nica/SVE.htm> >Field skills training for student naturalists >Floriferous [at] msn.com ----------------------------------------------------------- racheli [at] sonoracohousing.com (Racheli Gai) ----------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L
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Dealing with difficult personalities Fred H Olson, April 21 2003
- Re: Dealing with difficult personalities Sharon Villines, April 21 2003
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Re: Dealing with difficult personalities Catya Belfer-Shevett, April 21 2003
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RE: Dealing with difficult personalities Rob Sandelin, April 21 2003
- RE: Dealing with difficult personalities Racheli Gai, April 21 2003
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RE: Dealing with difficult personalities Rob Sandelin, April 21 2003
- RE: Dealing with difficult personalities Casey Morrigan, April 21 2003
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RE: Dealing with difficult personalities Robert Heinich, April 21 2003
- Re: Dealing with difficult personalities Juva DuBoise, April 22 2003
- Consensus requirements Rob Sandelin, April 22 2003
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