Cohousing and Intentional Community | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (floriferous![]() |
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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:37:09 -0700 (MST) |
Cohousing is a very specific type of intentional community, with very specific prescriptions, some documented, others by example and design. Intentional Community is a broad umbrella, there are dozens of kinds of intentional communities, so in referring to non-cohousing communities it is easiest just to refer to them as intentional communities. Technically to differentiate it would be more correct to say something like, non-cohousing community forms. For example, a religious commune is not, and can not be cohousing, since income and asset sharing is specifically not part of the cohousing definition as created by the national cohousing organization (I forget exactly what they are calling themselves these days). It is unofficially not OK to have a spirituality requirement in cohousing, although that was not part of the official definition last time I checked. Also private ownership is not part of the official definition, although as far as I know of, 100% of all cohousing is privately owned. For exactly the details of what the official description of cohousing is see www.cohousing.org I am sure that definition is up there somewhere. Having traveled around the US visiting and exploring all kinds of communities I find There are several interesting differences. For example, most cohousing groups are larger than 20 people, most non-cohousing intentional communities are smaller than 20 people. In fact, in the last ten years cohousing accounts for a huge percentage of new communities formed with over 50 people. All cohousing groups are bank financed, few other intentional communities forms are bank financed. All cohousing groups maintain private income, about 45% of other kinds of intentional communities require income sharing at some level or another. The average price of a cohousing unit is over $100,000, the average price of other intentional Community housing is well under that. Few cohousing groups have rigid time requirements for community participation, most other community forms have such requirements. The average life span of a non-cohousing community is very short, I would guess about 75% of all non-cohousing intentional community startups, fail by five years. So far, I know of only one cohousing community which stopped being a community, so the track record for cohousing is 95% success at this point, although I think there are a couple of places that might be on the brink of falling apart. A very surprising discovery is that the sense of community connection, people to people, is high in many cohousing groups, in fact, higher than many other kinds of community I have visited. So for all the critiques of cohousing being Yuppies playing community, cohousers build bonds and work together as well as, or better than, some other models of community. It is my opinion, that because of the high economic requirements and stability that mortgages require, the really dysfunctional people that often plague other types of community do not gain entrance into cohousing, since their dysfunctional behaviors often preclude them from holding a job sufficiently long enough to qualify for a mortgage. After doing process work in about 100 different communities I have seen some really messed up people in non-cohousing community, and these people can, and often do, tear the community apart. So having an economic barrier of private ownership of market rate housing is, in some ways at least, a blessing in disguise. Cohousers have their issues and problems, but they seem to survive them very well. Rob Sandelin South Snohomish County at the headwaters of Ricci Creek Sky Valley Environments <http://www.nonprofitpages.com/nica/SVE.htm> Field skills training for student naturalists Floriferous [at] msn.com -----Original Message----- From: cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org [mailto:cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org]On Behalf Of Guy Koehler, Rivendell Ranch Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 6:50 AM To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Subject: Re: [C-L]_Rural Co-operative: co-housing, organic ranching and farming Thank you for the tip and address. Why do you speak of intentional community as different from cohousing? From what I've read so far, they seem identical. Guy Koehler Rivendell Ranch www.geocities.com/rivendell_ranch _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L
- Intentional Communities, (continued)
- Intentional Communities Sharon Villines, December 24 2003
- Re: Intentional Communities & funding Tree Bressen, December 24 2003
- discussions /URLs [was: [C-L]_Intentional Communities & funding Fred H Olson, December 25 2003
- Intentional Sustainability & Cooperation Guy Koehler, Rivendell Ranch, January 2 2004
- Cohousing and Intentional Community Rob Sandelin, December 24 2003
- Re: Cohousing and Intentional Community Guy Koehler, Rivendell Ranch, December 25 2003
- Re: Cohousing and Intentional Community Chris ScottHanson, December 26 2003
- Re: Cohousing and Intentional Community Guy Koehler, Rivendell Ranch, December 26 2003
- Income levels, jobs and stability Rob Sandelin, December 26 2003
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