RE: members with dementia | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (floriferous![]() |
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Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:52:41 -0700 (PDT) |
A block means you are withholding permission for the group to go ahead. It is not appropriate to use a block because you disagree, consensus is not about agreement, it's about giving permission. (The root word consent, means give permission). It is normal to give permission for things you might disagree about. Unfortunately, far too many cohousing groups have come to understand that consensus means unanimous agreement, (everybody more or less agrees) so they spend hours and hours trying to accomplish this, and sometimes end up unsuccessful and frustrated. Its ok for people to disagree about a decision, especially coupled with personal humility to let the community try it out and see. So a question you might come back to a block is, can you tell us why you feel the group should not move ahead with this decision? From that simple question should come a clear answer with which the group can then work with. If the answer to the block is, I don't like it, or some variation of that, then clearly that member does not understand consensus and needs instruction or training. If a member who is mentally questionable is given the opportunity to withhold permission for the groups decisions, then you might need to consider how you can ask them for permission. The question should be clear and simple and relate to the topic, for example, can you tell us why we should not expand dinner hours from 6-7:30? Sometimes refocusing the decision as a clear question might be all this person needs in order to understand it. Meetings with many people saying many things can get very confusing. This is where a good facilitator takes ownership for clarity, and clearly sums up the comments to that point, and checks in the proposal as modified. As you gain experience with a mentally disabled person you might be able to find patterns in their behaviors which can give you indications of what might come. For example, I know of a person who takes medications, and she is very calm while medicated, but when her medication has not been taken she is very high strung and twitches her hands around in a nervous manner. Clearly if you can find some behavioral cues which indicate the mental state of your member, your meeting facilitator has something to work with. If you are so lucky as to have a facilitation team, I suggest you include this person in your meeting planning, and have a plan in place when they act dysfunctional. You can also set this up with them ahead of time, assuming they are aware of their behaviors. I recall a community I met with which had a member who had a multiple personality disorder. Now that caused some serious whackiness in their world! You never knew who was going to show up at the meeting. Rob Sandelin Sharingwood Community -----Original Message----- From: Helen Lauritzen [mailto:hlauritz [at] cablespeed.com] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:29 PM To: cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Subject: [C-L]_ members with dementia Have any of you dealt with a member suffering from dementia who makes consensus difficult for the group? We are an aging group and have one person who is usually rational and intelligent but gets confused in meetings and is unable to move from thought to thought. He therefore gets stuck in a position, which usually results in his blocking consensus. Do you think a form of consensus minus one would work, whereby the person blocking has a set period of time in which to persuade another member of their blocking concerns? We'd like to hear your suggestions, experiences, thoughts. Helen Lauritzen, RoseWind _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005
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members with dementia Helen Lauritzen, June 3 2005
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