Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Urban infill

[David L. Mandel (dlmandel]

I don't mean to pick on this planned community in particular -- it may be a
great development -- but it hit me as kind of the last straw among a number
of other responses from people who described their communities as "urban
infill" but gave addresses that were either suburban or even farther from a
central city.
Has the definition of "urban" become this diluted?
Eight wooded acres on a creek in a very rural area? I don't think so.
David Mandel, Southside Park, Sacramento

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Somerville" <wolfwebmaster [at] wolfcreekcommons.org>
To: <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Urban infill


> Re urban infill:
> In Grass Valley, CA, the Wolf Creek Commons multigenerational community
and Wolf Creek Lodge adult community, both in the planning process, are a
classic example of urban infill projects. Their wooded 8-acre site is
surrounded by commercial development and single-family housing, but it
slopes away toward a creek, offering  a surprising level of privacy and
quiet even in an urban setting.
>
> Rich Somerville
> www.wolfcreekcommons.org
>
>
> cohousing-l-request [at] cohousing.org wrote:
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:21:07 -0700
> From: "Casey Morrigan"
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Cooperative neighbors and neighbornets, Definition
>  of Terms
> To: "'Cohousing-L'"
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> I would call Two Acre Wood, in Sebastopol, California, an infill project.
> However, it is in a small (7800 pop.) town, not in an urban setting. Same
is
> true of FrogSong in Cotati - a "small-town infill." Hey - it's a new
> category!
>
> Sounded like Jackson Place in Seattle is urban infill. Anyone from there
> want to chime in on that?
>
> Casey Morrigan
> Two Acre Wood
> Sebastopol
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: create2gro [at] aol.com [mailto:create2gro [at] aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:55 PM
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Cooperative neighbors and neighbornets,Definition of
> Terms
>
> Dear cohousing-l,
>
> Can anyone refer us to another example of an Urban "Infill" Neighborhood
> other than the Nomad Cohousing Community?
>
> Thanks!
>
> HOLISTIC NEIGHBORS
> create2gro [at] aol.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fholson [at] cohousing.org
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Sent: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Cooperative neighbors and neighbornets, Definition of
> Terms
>
> Hannah  wrote:
>
> > I just received Zev & Neshama's ELDER COHOUSING UPDATE.  There they
> > speak of Nomad Cohousing Community, an Urban "Infill" Neighborhood.
> >
> > Can anyone Compare and Contrast these terms, please:
> > 1) Cooperative Neighborhood
> > 2) "Infill" Neighborhood
> > 3) Neighbornet
> > 4) Retrofit Cohousing
>
> These terms (1,2,4) do not have widely accepted definitions in my
experience
> and they do overlap. Various writers use these or other variations of thse
> terms. Here's my ad hoc attempt to define them.
>
> I tried to promote the use of the term  Retrofit Cohousing to mean a
> cohousing like community developed in existing housing with little or no
> reconstruction of the physical facitlies.  It involves a turnover of the
> population - typically as current residents move out of their own
volition.
> It has also been called "organic cohousing".  The premier example is N
> street cohousing.  See link via my page:
> http://mn.cohousing.org/retrofit/
> (note that this page needs updating - suggestions encouraged - email me.
> Unfortunately both terms conjure other interpretations and have been used
> differently on occasion.  The cohousing-L archives contain this term often
(
> http://lists.cohousing.org/archives/cohousing-l/  (with search form)
>
>  "Infill" Neighborhood  "Infill" is often used to refer to development on
a
> relatively small parcel of land surounded by already developed land that
is
> not changing.  Usually proposals for such parcels are compatible with
> existing uses which limits how they can be developed (as well as the size
> and shape etc of the parcel.
>
> Cooperative Neighborhood.  I dont recall a/the specific use of this term
>
>  ( possibly in the 1995 book: _Rebuilding Community in America_, by Ken
>   Norwood, AICP and Kathleen Smith.)  I presume it refers to a
neighborhood
> with some intentional effort to build or facilitate community building.
>  I am unaware of any size limits implied.
>
> Neighbornets is a term used by some folks in Seattle who are trying to
build
> residential intentional community amongst (mostly - this is the opposite
of
> cohousing) existing residents of city communities but they are not as
> compact as cohousing.  From their web site (link via retrofit pg above).
>
>  Neighbornets are a way that people organize themselves within
> neighborhoods based on shared values, shared needs, and shared interests.
>  "Sharing" is a key word in neighbornets. Participants in neighbornets
> share resources, time, and friendship with one another.
>
>  Another important characteristic of neighbornets is "proximity" or
> "place." Members of any given neighbornet always live, work, or spend
time
> in the same general area. They may live next door, several blocks  away,
> work at the corner store, or ride their bike from a mile away.
>
> Fred
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:45:38 -0700
> From: "David L. Mandel"
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Cooperative neighbors and neighbornets, Definition
>  of Terms
> To: "Cohousing-L"
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> We're one of the originals in the infill category: 25 homes, 1.3 acres,
old
> neighborhood in downtown Sacramento, straddling an alley and oddly shaped
to
> fit in part of the block alongside other houses.
>
> Also Emeryville and Oakland communities, though the difference there is
that
> they rehabbed old industrial buildings in areas that were just starting to
> see residential development.
>
> David Mandel, Southside Park
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Casey Morrigan"
> To: "'Cohousing-L'"
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Cooperative neighbors and neighbornets,Definition of
> Terms
> >
> > Sounded like Jackson Place in Seattle is urban infill. Anyone from there
> > want to chime in on that?
> >
> > Casey Morrigan
> > Two Acre Wood
> > Sebastopol
> >
>
>
>
>
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