Re: work-or-pay system - legalities? general advice? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Kay Argyle (Kay.Argyle![]() |
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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:49:05 -0700 (PDT) |
In our community, unresolved (unresolvable) concerns, including variations of those expressed in this thread and others, invariably have made overarching participation proposals bog down. As a result, we initially started with an entirely voluntary work system. It quickly became clear that, for whatever reason, that wasn't successful for our community. People have said, "If you don't feel good about the amount of work you are doing, quit doing it," which blames people for being responsive to community needs and IMO actually worsens burnout. We passed piecemeal work agreements. Few of these have had teeth, but peer pressure at least gums over nonparticipants in the common house work team system enough to have kept it going (if not entirely to our satisfaction) for ten years. A common meal agreement which involved a differential price for those who didn't cook or clean survived a few years; the failure of agreements regarding grounds upkeep took it down with them. We started hiring out increasing amounts of work. That lowered some tensions and certainly improved upkeep of the community's physical infrastructure, but has left little money for anything else. It seems to me that, surrounded by a "free market" society, we have unthinkingly been operating according to its values: Capital is worthy of respect; labor is not. We currently regard hiring someone to clean the common house for you as fulfilling your work team obligations. How is that different from a buy-out, or less "unfair" to people who can't afford to do it? We charge late fees for overdue HOA payments, yet forgive inattendance at work parties without question. Our community specifically decided against an income component in the HOA fee formula; what justification is there in wanting extra work from residents who have more time? Not asking anyone to justify their reasons for not doing community work, because "We don't want to embarrass anyone," freely excuses not only (for instance) a resident caring for a disabled child or a parent with Alzheimers, but also (for instance) a person who would rather watch a "Gidget" rerun than sweep the dumpster enclosure. The wish to be sensitive because people _might_ have limited time or money enables freeloading by people who have plenty of both. (I occasionally send my fellow community members into a tizzy by saying that some people _should_ feel embarrassed.) In a shift of perspective, we decided to worry less about hypothetical residents who might need the community's generosity, and more about real residents whose generosity the community needs, residents who make time for community work no matter what else is going on in their lives, yet stretch their household budgets to help pay for work other people aren't doing -- speaking of fairness! In a system with no buyouts, none of the residents with inadequate time can fulfill community obligations, no matter their income. With buyouts, residents with insufficient time yet adequate income at least can fulfill obligations monetarily. Buyouts actually increase fairness, by expecting the impossible of fewer residents. One of many reasons for building strong community relationships is to allow someone who needs special accommodation for their circumstances to feel minimal discomfort about asking for it -- if the community isn't already well aware of the situation, and offering more than they need or want. Our work discussions have always considered physical limitations; our current work-or-pay discussion already touched on donation of extra hours worked. We don't anticipate that buy-outs will throw additional work onto the remaining workers, because, firstly, a buy-out means extra money for the budget (people seem to forget that detail), potentially used to hire work done; and secondly, that concern assumes the people buying out were doing community work previously. If inactive residents start either paying for work currently hired out, or doing it themselves rather than pay the $20/hr buyout, we'll have more money in the budget. Either HOA fees can go down, or we can finally afford some things we've never been able to afford. That's a potential direct benefit to households who don't buy out. My thanks to everyone who has commented -- including the ones I don't necessarily agree with. ;) Kay A. Wasatch Commons SLC __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6070 (20110425) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
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