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From: Diana Leafe Christian (diana![]() |
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 05:53:20 -0700 (PDT) |
Hello,To respond to Rick's question, below, I think most cohousing communities do have a super-majority voting fallback (as often required by banks), but don't use it, out of the belief they'd be violating their principles if they did.
But here's why I'm really writing:I believe it is a widely held belief that using consensus-with- unanimity (with no recourse if someone blocks) _helps_ a community. To quote Rick, below, "the learning and relationship-building that goes on in almost all cases benefits the community and the individuals in it."
I would love to believe that this particular decision-making method helps a community.
But I've rarely seen it.In communities I've visited and sat in on meetings, in my own community, and in those I've been a consultant for who use consensus- with-unanimity-with-no-resource, I've often seen exhaustion, frustration, demoralization, and diminished meeting attendance.
I've seen people advocate, as Rick does below, that when someone blocks -- or, as is much more common, _threatens_ to block -- community members should simply spend more time trying to deeply understand one another. As Rick advises, "to use the opportunity to strengthen relationships within the community."
I've rarely seen this.Instead, I've usually seen that relationships among community members just seem to get worse.
I always thought this was because people weren't _practicing_ consensus correctly; they just needed to get more skilled. But now I don't think so.
Please consider the advice to "spend more time." This is possible and perhaps even enjoyable for people with lots of time, such as retired people or wealthy people, as they probably don't have full-time jobs. But can the average person with a job, especially when they're raising children, afford the long periods of patient listening -- often to expressions of inner emotional distress -- that this decision-making method often requires?
I don't think so. I think the idea that consensus-with-unanimity works well is based on the idea that people DO have the time and willingness to deeply listen to each other for long hours, like the devoutly religious Quakers who invited it in the 1600s did.
I don't think our modern-day community lives are much like those of deeply religious 17th century Quakers. I think we need a governance and decision-making method that is a much better fit for our current- day reality.
So what do cohousers and other communitarians who use a different method say?
“ . . . Because of Sociocracy I sense that we have fewer meetings than other intentional communities, and we accomplish more during them, and we have more ease in the process.” —Debbie Ramsdell, Champlain Valley Cohousing Vermont (email to Gayatri Erlandson,
Asheville Dynamic Governance Association)“In the year since we formed our first socicratic circle at Lost Valley, much has improved here in our morale, our facilities, and our quality of life.” —Melanie Rios, Executive Director, Lost Valley Educational Center, Oregon, from article in
Communities magazine, Winter 2011/2012“Frankly, I think Sociocracy holds the best possibility of any governance method for dealing with matters as complex as creating intentional communities. More than an improvement upon or a step better than consensus, I think Sociocracy is a quantum leap better than any other decision-making format I’ve learned about or ever used previously.” —Larilee Suiter, Champlain Valley Cohousing, Vermont (in email to Gayatri Erlandson,
Asheville Dynamic Governance Association) Thanks for reading this. Diana Leafe Christian 1. Sociocracy and blocking (Richart Keller) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:57:46 -0400 From: "Richart Keller" <richart.keller [at] gmail.com> Subject: [C-L]_ Sociocracy and blockingI wonder how many (and which) communities currently have consensus with no
recourse if someone blocks?Whether or not they do have such recourse (and I suspect that most do, at
least on paper) in the rare cases where someone "blocks" an important decision, it may be important for the community to spend the time giving extra consideration to the concerns expressed for several reasons: 1. to be clear that there is a thorough community-wide understanding of the basis for the concern so that the outcome is well- grounded--including in its rational and emotional dimensions, 2. by such consideration, to acknowledge and respect the consensus process, and 3. to use the opportunity to strengthen relationships within the community. A healthy community should be a continuing, central goal in any decision-making process.As someone who has grown up with, excercised, and facilitated consensus and consenus-like decision making, I have certainly experienced the frustration
and sometimes seemingly inordinate time required to make an important decision. At the same time, I know from experience that successful communities are in it "for the long haul" and that the learning and relationship-building that goes on in almost all cases benefits the community and the individuals in it. The pressures to make efficient decisions are powerful, but we must not let them over-ride the movement toward a peaceful and just world. In community Rick Richart Keller, AICP Pioneer Valley Cohousing 120 Pulpit Hill Road #25 Amherst, MA 01002 413-835-0011 401 486-2677 (cell) (richart.keller [at] gmail.com)
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