Re: Post COVID accessibility
From: Chris Hansen (itschrishansengmail.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 08:38:01 -0700 (PDT)
Yes and amen to more than one person tech-trained!
It’s a lot of work and draining and if meetings are frequent and/or
intense/and or the one person who does this is not present or available for
any reason you’re screwed...


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:19 AM Ann Zabaldo <zabaldo [at] earthlink.net> wrote:

> Hello all —
>
> I haven’t had any experience in hybrid Zoom meetings but I have plenty of
> experience in hybrid meetings between a F2F meeting and people on a phone
> conference line.  It requires the facilitator to be more alert to looping
> people on the phone into the meeting esp. around Q&A time. One thing having
> people on a phone line does is to insure people who are together and people
> on the phone talk one at a time.   Of course, people on the phone can’t see
> charts or videos shown to the in-person meeting but you can rectify that by
> having all the a/v material distributed in advance such as powerpoint
> presentations so the phone folks can follow along.
>
> Love the idea of intensive training for people a la the tech side.
> Suggest minimum TWO people are trained so there’s always a backup.  Three
> even better.
>
> Best —
>
> Ann Zabaldo
> Takoma Village Cohousing
> Washington, DC
> Ex. Dir. & Mbr. Board of Directors
> Mid Atlantic Cohousing
> Principal, Cohousing Collaborative, LLC
> Falls Church, VA
> 202.546.4654
> midatlantic [at] earthlink.net
>
> When Isaac Newton stayed home to avoid the 1665 plague, he discovered the
> Laws of Gravity, Optics, and he invented Calculus
>
> NOTE:  I’m switching back to using zabaldo [at] earthlink.net.  Many 
> apologies!
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 25, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Fiona Frank <fionafrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am from Lancaster Cohousing (U.K.) but also my former employer , the
> > Scottish Council of Jewish Communities, has a £50k two year funded
> project
> > to develop good practice in hybrid events . We’re thinking of a
> > professional community film person to train community organisations in
> > streaming skills, a tech person in the zoom meeting working with the
> > communal organisations and participants to make sure that there are
> proper
> > links between the two spaces .... a screen in the room to bring the
> online
> > participants into the ‘real’ space - but it’s work in progress and we’re
> > just at the beginning at the moment ....
> > Best wishes fiona Frank
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, 25 April 2021, Hafidha Sofia <hafidhaao [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, Allison! I am! And Hybrid models need to be considered absolutely.
> I
> >> am committed and doing a lot of learning and experimenting on hybrid
> >> spaces... would be interested to plug in with whomever can help that be
> a
> >> collective peer learning and sharing project for cohousing communities
> >> across the continent / globe. As I mentioned before I have a
> professional
> >> interest in this. I work for an online (social) movement school that
> was on
> >> Zoom for years prior to the pandemic; and our focus is centering care
> and
> >> access. I lead the tech support trainings and development.
> >>
> >> Would love to know who do I talk to, who can I work with to further
> access
> >> in cohousing post pandemic?
> >>
> >> Hafidha
> >> Songaia Cohousing
> >> Washington State, USA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Apr 25, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Diana Carroll <dianaecarroll [at] gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I haven't tried doing hybrid online/in person meetings specifically in
> >> the
> >>> context of accessibility (or cohousing) but I've done plenty in a
> >> business
> >>> context and it's pretty awful. My experience is that the online people
> >> get
> >>> left out because you have to specifically make time for them to talk
> due
> >> to
> >>> lag, because people speak more clearly automatically when online, and
> for
> >>> several other reasons. I don't really have major hearing issues, but I
> >> can
> >>> rarely hear/understand/participate in hybrid meetings. I can only
> imagine
> >>> it would be worse for people with legit hearing issues.
> >>>
> >>> It is possible that with great care they would work, but so far, I
> >> haven;t
> >>> figured out how to make that happen.
> >>>
> >>> Diana
> >>> mosaic commons, MA
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 1:39 PM Allison Tom <allisonrtom [at] gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This morning's discussion about how zoom makes meetings more
> accessible
> >> to
> >>>> Deaf people and people with hearing impairments and people (like me)
> >> with
> >>>> other disabilities makes me curious.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've just realized that I've been assuming that post COVID we will all
> >>>> return to in-person meetings and I'll lose access to events and
> >>>> conversations I've been able to join over the last year.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does it have to be that way? I think that trying to have a hybrid
> >>>> in-person/zoom meeting could be really difficult. But has anyone tried
> >> to
> >>>> do that and had success?
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we use the general awareness that some people who had been
> excluded
> >>>> from in person events have gained access through zoom and other
> >> technology
> >>>> to get creative about how we can be included post COVID?
> >>>>
> >>>> Is anyone else interested in this topic?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Allison Tom
> >>>> Driftwood Village Cohousing
> >>>> North Vancouver, BC
> >>>> Moving in late summer 2021
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