Breeching interpersonal Boundaries | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (floriferous![]() |
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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:53:10 -0600 (MDT) |
I could not disagree more that unhealthy personal boundaries are more likely in communes. In my work, which takes me to all kinds of communities doing relationship and decision making work I see almost the opposite. I see cohousing groups most often have the most dysfunctional problems around personal boundaries, mainly in the form of not acknowleging and talking about them as group work. There is this common thread in cohousing, which goes like this: I do not want to do group work on relationships. Here is a classic problem example: A cohousing group has a member whose behaviors are causing enormous conflicts and problems in the group. The group as a whole is unwilling to examine these behaviors, because many individuals in the group do not want to have the group examining behaviors of individuals. When I ask, "would you be willing to receive feedback (gently and with caring) about behaviors that cause problems for others," the answer cohousing groups often give is very mixed and usually is mostly on the NO side of the scale. When I ask this same question in communes, the answer has always been strongly on the YES side of the scale. Thus communes have the will and tools to work through this, and cohousing groups often just flounder in it, with much talking behind the back, and private griping about it until the person with the behaviors either drives everybody else away or leaves themselves because their relationships are shot. The privacy aspect of cohousing, in my opinion, attracts people who really don't want to do relationship work, even when relationships are pretty damaged. So this is an example where a personal boundary is unhealthy for the community. >From my observations of more than a dozen communes, in order to be successful in that environment you quickly have to set clear personal boundaries. The environment more of less forces you to do that. In order to live in a cohousing group you do not, and often it is unclarity about personal boundaries that cause the greatest conflicts in cohousing. A classic example of this is the person who buys a cohousing unit after the community is built and living together for awhile. They often have huge adjustments to make, because often the underlying current of the boundaries are not told to prospective buyers. For example, one community undercurrent is how the group expects people to engage in work. If you are not a "jump right in and get involved" type, then often the undercurrent is that you are a lazy, noncontributor. Rob Sandelin Community Works! Group process workshops for social change groups Check out the resources at: Http://www.ic.org/nica/cw1.htm -----Original Message----- From: cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org [mailto:cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org]On Behalf Of Hans Tilstra Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:06 PM To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Subject: Re: [C-L]_What's wrong with communes vs. families > It seems to me that all of the above [ breach of healthy interpersonal boundaries] occurs often enough in families. > Yet, we don't claim that all families are bad, or that we should > avoid using the word 'family'. . I am convinced that in both families & communes the breach of healthy interpersonal boundaries is harmful, particularly when the two have children. My hypothesis is that unhealthy interpersonal boundaries are more likely in communes. Hence my attraction to cohousing, as it builds in privacy & community. I like the healthy financial boundaries, the clever use of space, the selection & consultation process. I like the level of informed consent, the level of collaboration, the intelligence of the typical cohouser and I particularly like the nuances in the above listed. Hans tilstra [at] smartchat.net.au _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
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Re: What's wrong with communes? Racheli&John, May 10 2001
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Re: What's wrong with communes vs. families Hans Tilstra, May 10 2001
- Breeching interpersonal Boundaries Rob Sandelin, May 11 2001
- Re: Breeching interpersonal Boundaries Howard Landman, May 11 2001
- Privacy vs Anonymity Sharon Villines, May 11 2001
- Re: Breaching interpersonal boundaries Hans Tilstra, May 12 2001
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Re: What's wrong with communes vs. families Hans Tilstra, May 10 2001
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