Re: rules
From: Wayne Tyson (landrestcox.net)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 18:49:04 -0700 (PDT)
Moz and CoHo:

Moz has deftly given us and example of true conflict resolution, not by taking a polarizing "position," but by integrating the apparent "sides" and recognizing that, by thoughtful discrimination, a (moving) point of reconciliation can be reached. I suggest it's not for nothing that the sides of any issue may be more than two, and that a compromise that both taketh and giveth just might be replaced by a kind of synergy unrecognized by an fixed perspective.

Communication is so much more than just "getting it right," and the interpretation of the receiver is as important as the skill of the commentator. Understanding each other is vastly different than teaching each other, being right, winning, or convincing. We may need ego to survive, but we don't need egocentrism and understanding beats prevailing any day.

Semantics can lead to misunderstanding, but asking questions can often nip it in the bud. "Rules" for example, can mean one thing to one person, and quite another thing to another, but that need not be a barrier to understanding unless we insist upon making it so. The mere act of suggesting an alternative is not, in of itself, rude, but if it is not well-stated or if it is misinterpreted, a challenge to a popular notion can seem rude. But letting the other person know of an offense, like Moz wisely points out, is an important point of reconciliation, not confrontation--if the "offender" is willing to re-state her or his proposition. Gaining understanding is something like Goldilocks' applying her skills of discrimination to the soups of the Three Bears--not too hot, not too cold, but j u s t right.

Community and communication don't share a common root for nothing. I know that others may differ, but as for me, I prefer community that is built through mutual consideration and recognition of elements held in common first, then synergistic reconciliation rather than "intention," at least in the narrow sense. The broad goal of acting in ways that are mutually beneficial is good enough for me, and the test for any "rule" is whether it tends more to be consistent with that basic goal than inconsistent is one way of "testing" its validity. I shall be delighted to replace that position with a superior one.

I will still want, however, to infuse any "rule" with the flexibility to adapt to different and changing contexts and recognition of exceptions, such as illness or incapacity or limitations that may limit an individual's ability to conform to the rules that may not be apparent to others. Some people with such marginal or unrecognizable limitations to their abilities are not always eager to whine about them or to make tedious and detailed explanations (time after time after time . . . ). Other's will endure considerable pain, hardship, and degradation of their condition to fulfill their responsibilities rather than appear to be a slacker or an excuse-maker. Acquiring the habit of asking questions rather than making accusations is not an altogether bad idea. Fear not, however, as such people quite understand that, even when a limited ability is apparent to others, it often goes unrecognized by normal people and most realize that people are not being insensitive. It is very difficult to understand what it's like to be in pain without outward, attention-getting symptoms--such people rarely scream out in public, and they really do hate to be a burden or not carry their share of the burden. Most of all, they fear the indignity of patronizing condescension. That is "the most unkindest cut of all."

WT

----- Original Message ----- From: <list [at] moz.geek.nz>
To: "Cohousing-L" <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ rules



Wayne:
There is something subtly disrespectful implied by posting rules;

Lynn Nadeau / Maraiah:
NOT having rules/guidelines can lead to a lot more tension than coming
to clarity about some bottom-line stuff. ... with advance permission
then folks know to ask ahead, and neighbors also know they
have a right to call and remind

I think this is a key tension in many groups. We have it, it sounds as
though others do too.

I think a lot of us have been on both sides of these, I know I have,
and I've decided that for me at least clear rules are better. That way
at least I get to make an informed choice about obeying (or not)
whatever rules there are. The alternative is that I suffer social
sanction for something I didn't know was wrong.

So I volunteer to write stuff up, maintain websites, whatever is needed
so that people can find out what the situation is. Which takes time, and
often annoys people, but I'd rather have that than the alternative.

Moz

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