Re: Bullying | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Kathleen Lowry (kathleenlowrylpcclmft![]() |
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2022 06:58:38 -0700 (PDT) |
As a therapist I often am helping the “victim” themselves understand they feel bad because they allow themselves to be bullied. As a parent at a small public charter school, talking to the parents of the bully didn’t work, asking a group of parents of “victims” to talk to the parents didn’t work, the school intervention didn’t work. What finally worked was teaching my daughter to shove me up against a wall -she never actually had to do it to the bully-and the bullying stopped. My daughter needed permission and skills to change her energy I guess. > On Aug 6, 2022, at 8:40 AM, Diana Leafe Christian <diana [at] ic.org> wrote: > > Hello Alan and all, > > I appreciate these observations as they're what I've observed too. It's > common for enablers — usually conflict-averse, fairly insecure people > (usually women rather than men) — attempt to minimize, discount, or deflect > attention away from bullying behaviors by implying that there's something > wrong with you if you want to address the serious issue of bullying. This > minimizing and deflection helps keeps the bullying in place in the community. > It doesn't get addressed at all but continues on, year after year. The way I > see it, there are two equivalent factors to bullying in community: one is the > bullying behavior and the other, equally harmful factor, are those who offer > New Agey, pop-psychology, or communities-movement platitudes to induce us to > ignore it. Pure manipulation, and, as Alan says, it's gaslighting: > > "Everybody has a bad day sometime." > "How can you say that? Don't you have any compassion? He's not a bad > person!" > "Give him a break; we're all only human." > "Why are you trying to stir up trouble? Why are you trying to create > community conflict?" > "Why can't we all just get along?" > > I also totally agree with Alan that bullies tend to target meeker community > members, mostly women. I think it's not quite misogyny, however, as most of > the community bullies I've seen or been told about by other community members > are women, who. And they also target other women in the community, especially > those who may be empaths or what some mental health professionals call > "highly sensitive people." > > I these issues in my article series too: gen-us.net/DLC. > > Alan, I'm glad you addressed this in your book — it's such a needed topic, > and for many, a community taboo topic. I just looked up your book on Amazon > and plan to buy it. > > We can't get too much good information about what works well when we live in > community! > > Diana Leafe Christian > >> On Aug 6, 2022, at 8:45 AM, Alan O'Hashi via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] >> cohousing.org> wrote: >> >> Susan: Bullying stifles participation. We have three/four bullies at our >> place. They gaslight their social malady as "initiative." Initiative is one >> thing, but when it evolves into self-interest and hubris because they don't >> get their way, that's when it becomes bullying. The problem at my place, is >> the bullies have cronies who are enablers, "Oh, It's not about So-and-So. >> Let's get back to the issue." My bullies tend to gang up on the same people, >> who are the meeker community members - mostly women - so misogyny also is at >> play. One person was so adamant about getting in the last word on an issue, >> that on the night of the community meeting, they wrote a terse and whiney >> email threatening not to follow the policy if it was adopted. >> >> I devote a few chapters of my book to bullying behavior, causes and >> accountability:https://smile.amazon.com/True-Stories-Aging-Do-Gooder-cohousing-ebook/dp/B08P4WRRG1/ >> >> >> Alan O >> >> >> Alan O'Hashi >> Donate and get "Beyond Heart Mountain"books and DVDs >> www.beyondheartmountain.com >> www.bouldercomedia.com..303-910-5782....307-316-2113.. >> >> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 04:16:16 AM MDT, <cohousing-l-request [at] >> cohousing.org> wrote: >> >> Send Cohousing-L mailing list submissions to >> cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.cohousing.org/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> cohousing-l-request [at] cohousing.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> cohousing-l-owner [at] cohousing.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Cohousing-L digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Bullying (Sue Donaldson) >> 2. Re: Bullying (Kathleen Lowry) >> 3. Diversity Training Package (Crystal Farmer) >> 4. Re: Bullying (Diana Carroll) >> 5. Re: Bullying (Kathleen Lowry) >> 6. Why communications software is important (Sharon Villines) >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: >> http://L.cohousing.org/info >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > >
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- Re: Bullying Kathleen Lowry, August 5 2022
- Re: Bullying Diana Leafe Christian, August 5 2022
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Bullying Alan O'Hashi, August 6 2022
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Re: Bullying Diana Leafe Christian, August 6 2022
- Re: Bullying Kathleen Lowry, August 6 2022
- Re: Bullying Darien Payne, August 6 2022
- Re: Bullying Kathleen Lowry, August 6 2022
- Re: Bullying Kelly Bachman, August 6 2022
- Re: Bullying Kathleen Lowry, August 6 2022
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Re: Bullying Diana Leafe Christian, August 6 2022
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