Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Dishwasher

[Laura Fitch, A.I.A. (lfitch]

Pioneer Valley also has a Hobart like the one listed below.  It is 
really a good machine.  The quick cycle time is essential for a 
community of our size.  We regularly serve between 56 and 64 diners. 
Because our kitchen can be closed off, the noise is not an issue - I'm 
not even sure it is particularly noisy.  

The under counter Hobart does however require careful back care in 
loading, as you must lift and lower heavy racks in and out of the 
opening that is knee high.  We have recommended to other communties to 
raise their hobarts on a 12" pedestal.  This would elliminate some of 
the potential for back injury.  However, it does break up the continuity 
of the counter top level.

The comment below about walling off kitchens sounds like a universal 
recommendation not to wall them off.  I think the issue is very complex, 
and very much dependent on the size of the community.  I have never 
heard anyone at Pioneer Valley complain about the walling off of our 
kitchen.  In fact, we often have Common House uses that would conflict 
if we couldn't close the big openings into the kitchen.  But we are a 
big community.  I have looked with some envy at the lovely open kitchens 
in other smaller communities, but I love Pioneer Valley and would not 
trade my great neighbors and our need for closing off the kitchen, for 
this feature!

Hope this is useful, Laura

--
Laura Fitch, A.I.A.
Principal Architect

KRAUS-FITCH ARCHITECTS, INC.
110 Pulpit Hill Rd.
Amherst, MA  01002
413-549-5799
413-549-7918 (fax)

lfitch [at] krausfitch.com


David Mandel wrote:

> The biggest problem with dishwashers of that type that I've seen is that
> they're very noisy, not conducive to relaxed after-dinner conversation in
> the dining room, unless your kitchen is walled off, which I wouldn't
> recommend for other reasons.
> David
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kay Argyle" <argyle [at] mines.utah.edu>
> To: <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_Dishwasher
>
>
> > We've got a Hobart and wouldn't part with it.  It does plates, glasses,
> > flatware, pans, cutting boards, wood salad bowls, knives, the compost
> > bucket, the sponges, the floor registers ... everything but disposable
> cups
>
> > (they sag).
> >
> > If the cook turns it on when the meal starts, it's ready to go by the time
> > the first dishes come into the kitchen.  The cycle is 90 seconds, and we
> > probably run a dozen loads on a common meal night (about 20 people on
> > average).
> >
> > We've had it three years.  I believe it has needed repair once, I don't
> > remember what for.  One of the dish racks melted when somebody set it on a
> > hot burner -- we don't have enough counter space, so the stove gets used.
> > Our water has a pretty high mineral content, and the high temperatures
> (190F
>
> > rinse) result in a fairly heavy lime build-up, which needs to be taken off
> > every month or so to keep the rotors from clogging.
> >
> > Kay
> > Wasatch Commons
> > Salt Lake City, Utah
> > argyle [at] mines.utah.edu
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> >
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