Re: strategies to rein in escalating purchase prices | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Paul Harrington (pharrington![]() |
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Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT) |
Sharon, You could have shared the exact same story and not mentioned the ethnic origin of the contractor but you did and I believe that is what sparked the response. Your follow up comment is not much better. I think we all agree that hiring experience is often better value than hiring the lowest cost contractor. Paul > On May 28, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l > [at] cohousing.org> wrote: > > What I intended is to warn people about knee-jerk reactions that appear to be > socially conscious and anti-racist but in fact are ill-advised and > self-destructive. If a plumbing “company” never existed before public funds > were made available in some form to hire it, the proposition is suspect. > Clearly I said never existed before: > >> The problem was that they were brand new and didn’t exist before the >> legislation existed. The result was a lot of work that had to be redone, >> some not discovered until years later. > > It takes a long time for a company of people to learn to work together well > even if they are skilled. New companies have to be evaluated more closely > than companies that have built a reputation. > > To build a $7.5 million cohousing complex, you don’t use inexperienced > workers unless they are apprentices to experienced workers and work only > under their supervision. > > Being anti-racist doesn’t mean "hire people to do jobs they aren’t qualified > to do just because they are black or brown” or let people win bids aimed at > minorities who are purporting to be from a minority group when they aren’t. > That will surely backfire and give competent minority-owned companies a bad > reputation. > > Sharon > >> On May 28, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Hafidha Sofia <hafidhaao [at] gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Sharon, I don’t know what you intended, but your post >> -discourages people from utilizing minority owned contractor companies >> -perpetuates the idea that their work is of inferior quality >> -peddles the story that affirmative action policies reward un-deserving >> minorities >> >> Again, I don’t know what you intended but these are all very racist things. >> I am on this list to learn and be informed but reading your post this >> morning felt like a real slap in the face. I hope you can refrain from >> giving racist advice on this list. >> >> Sincerely, >> Hafidha >> >> Songaia Cohousing >> Washington State, USA >> >>> On May 28, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l >>> [at] cohousing.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> On May 27, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Olaf Kula <kulaolaf1957 [at] gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The >>>> other is whether there are grants, lending concessions, or tax incentives, >>>> to offset the higher building costs. >>> >>> Careful of tax incentives. Our developer had tax incentives for using >>> minority companies as subcontractors. The problem was that they were brand >>> new and didn’t exist before the legislation existed. The result was a lot >>> of work that had to be redone, some not discovered until years later. >>> >>> A flooring company said a few years ago that the bid winner for doing >>> floors for Air Force 1 was a company led by a native Alaskan. No one in the >>> flooring business had ever heard of such a company or person. >>> >>> Sharon >>> ——— >>> Sharon Villines, Editor & Publisher >>> Affordable Housing means 30% of household income >>> Cohousing means self-developed, self-governed, self-managed >>> http://affordablecohousing.com >>> >>> To subscribe to the discussion list send a blank message to: >>> affordablecohousing+subscribe [at] groups.io >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: >>> http://L.cohousing.org/info >>> >>> >>> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > > Paul Harrington 509.714.6301 pharrington [at] southhenry.com
- Re: strategies to rein in escalating purchase prices, (continued)
- Re: strategies to rein in escalating purchase prices Olaf Kula, May 27 2021
- Re: strategies to rein in escalating purchase prices Sharon Villines, May 28 2021
- Re: strategies to rein in escalating purchase prices Hafidha Sofia, May 28 2021
- Re: strategies to rein in escalating purchase prices Sharon Villines, May 28 2021
- Re: strategies to rein in escalating purchase prices Paul Harrington, May 28 2021
- Re: strategies to rein in escalating purchase prices Sharon Villines, June 2 2021
- Re: strategies to rein in escalating purchase prices Sharon Villines, June 2 2021
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