Re: Re: Refining concerns / needs | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:42:07 -0600 (MDT) |
On 7/24/03 2:35 AM, "Tree Bressen" <tree [at] ic.org> wrote: > Sounds like a group using CT Butler's Formal Consensus process perhaps? I > like his system for its clarity, but i think this is a major flaw in it. > The group is invited to list concern after concern, but there is no step > where a group is invited to share their enthusiasm, their positivity, their > good energy! Even listing positive things can be a drag, however, because people work so hard to do this. You end up spending a lot of time massaging the egos of the person or persons making the proposal. I think the key is setting goals for a proposal before it is written and then discussing it terms of whether it accomplishes those goals. Does it meet the criteria? Are there any objections? And you move on. This way discussions focus on policy decisions -- what do we need and why -- before a go-ahead decision is requested. The actual proposal can then just be posted for objections -- the values discussion has been had. If the proposal meets no objections, it happens. What a group needs is to know is: 1. What do we want or need, now and in the future? 2. Does this solution meet those criteria as well as it can at this moment? Is it close enough? This way you both (1) understand the needs/wants of the group better and (2) move forward on a "good enough" solution that brings you closer to your ultimate goal. Often what I want is for the group to understand my needs/wants and to share some agreement that "Yes we want to move in that direction but at the moment this is the best we can do." That helps me to accept a decision that isn't particularly optimal in my view because the group has acknowledged that it doesn't set a precedent for being the "right" decision, only the best one for now. I live in fear of people who latch on to precedents and use them to make autocratic decisions. They are also likely to be the ones who are anxious about discussing needs/wants, even their own. Sharon -- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L
- Re: Re: Refining concerns / needs, (continued)
- Re: Re: Refining concerns / needs Sharon Villines, July 20 2003
- Refining concerns / needs/expressing feelings Racheli Gai, July 20 2003
- Re: Refining concerns / needs/expressing feelings Sharon Villines, July 20 2003
- Re: Re: Refining concerns / needs Tree Bressen, July 23 2003
- Re: Re: Refining concerns / needs Sharon Villines, July 24 2003
- Re: Re: Refining concerns / needs Becky Weaver, July 24 2003
- Re: Re: Refining concerns / needs Sharon Villines, July 20 2003
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